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oneworld and non-oneworld airline awards currently bookable on AA.com:
AA, AS, AY, BA, FJ, IB, HA, JL, MH, QF, RJ
The current, up-to-date list of airlines that can be booked online for AAdvantage awards is at this link.
Airlines that can be booked for award travel on aa.com:

oneworld alliance partners

AA - American Airlines
BA - British Airways (awards incur YQ airline imposed surcharge)
AY - Finnair
IB - Iberia*
JL - Japan Airlines
MH - Malaysia Airlines
QF - Qantas
RJ - Royal Jordanian Airlines
Now QR and SL are bookable too

Other airline participants

AS - Alaska Airlines
FJ - Fiji Airlines
HA - Hawaiian Airlines

*as of July 2019

NOTE: To search for partner awards, go to advanced search from the awards search or home page and select all airlines.

For travel using AAdvantage miles on other airlines, you must call reservations (you only pay the applicable "optional" fee for if you can book online but choose to call).

List of airlines you can use in redeeming awards:
oneworld airlines (and their oneworld affiliates) are:

AA - American Airlines and American Eagle
BA - British Airways (and BA Cityflyer, Comair, Eastern Airways, Open Skies, Sun Air of Scandinavia, BA Limited) (incurs high YQ surcharge)
CX - Cathay Pacific (and KA - Dragonair)
AY - Finnair (and Privilege Style, Flybe Finland)
IB - Iberia (and Air Nostrum, Iberia Express) (incurs YQ surcharge)
JL - Japan Airlines (and J-Air)
LA - LAN (and LAN Express, LAN Colombia, LP - LAN Peru)
MH - Malaysia Airlines
RJ - Royal Jordanian
QF - Qantas (and QantasLink, Jetconnect)
QR - Qatar Airways
S7 - S7 (and Globus)
UL - SriLankan Airlines
JJ - TAM

Non-oneworld airlines one can redeem (MileSAAver) awards on are:

AS - Alaska Airlines
EY - Etihad
FJ - Fiji Airways
GF - Gulf Air
HA - Hawaiian Airlines
TN - Air Tahiti Nui
~~9W - Jet Airways (India)~~ (not partner any more)

Check this oneworld interactive map and timetable by Innosked to see potential routes, and you can sign up for British Airways Executive Club, Japan Airlines Miles and More or Qantas Frequent Flyer to use their sites to find awards (look for the lowest level awards) you can't see on aa.com. Also see this link to AA.com listing oneworld airlines with information about each.

AA award bookable on AA.com (AA, AS, AY, BA, FJ, IB, HA, JL, MH, QF, RJ)

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Apr 22, 2012, 10:50 am

#46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oneworld82

It's insane how much taxes you pay flying through LHR... A DFW-LHR-NCE flight in Y shows up as 40k miles plus 665 USD of taxes... Like, really??!

No major taxes when you fly through LHR. Only when you originate there. What you're seeing is primarily BA's fuel surcharges.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmgm

There seems to be a new category of HNL FC awards listing as 47,500 mile FC mile saver. Nothing is listed yet. Any idea what this is?

Are those roughly equivalent to the more "expensive" HA F awards?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmgm

It Is showing now LAX - HNL via JFK.

Interesting. I couldn't get the new HA flight from JFK to HNL to show up, booking in the autumn (it wasn't even in the list of unavailable flights).

Apr 22, 2012, 5:11 pm

#47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 3544quebec

Maybe according to ITA but not according to aa.com which lists the fees as $387.50 for MAD-LHR-GRU. Is the BA fuel surcharge really lower for MAD-LHR-GRU than for LHR-GRU? Is this a British concession to Spain's ailing economy?

One thing I have learnt is that if you want to fly India - Brazil return you save $600 odd of the $1280 fees by booking it as 2 separate oneway bookings rather than a return. You save $1200 odd by starting in Brazil in the first place. Do any other countries have this YQ embargo?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Austinrunner

ITA is VERY reliable on these issues. You've appeared to have discovered a glitch on aa.com. Or maybe it was how you entered the itinerary at aa.com.

In this case we need to be vigilant to check ITA to make sure the taxes are charged correctly. It is NOT the first time AA system messes up the calculation of taxes. Recall it had erroneously charged CX YQ on award a few months ago. If I recall correctly, over the past 12 months, the miscalculation of taxes have happened periodically every few months. It is as if the IT dept did not understand that there is difference in selling partner tickets versus booking partner award with AA.

Apr 22, 2012, 10:24 pm

#48

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Nice development!

Let's hope the other partners come on line as well.

Apr 22, 2012, 11:00 pm

#49

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I'm surprised Iberia didn't show up with BA.

Apr 22, 2012, 11:18 pm

#50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jpetekYXMD80

I'm surprised Iberia didn't show up with BA.

It may be because IB does not show up on BA itself either - I have found BA shows IB flights as BA code-shares when looking for award redemption. At least for the Intra-Europe flights I am searching for awards, BA site would show BA flight numbers then noted flight operated by IB. It wasn't like that last year.

Apr 23, 2012, 11:29 am

#51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jpetekYXMD80

I'm surprised Iberia didn't show up with BA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy

That's because actual IB flights no longer exist on those routes -- they have all been converted to BA pseudo-codeshares:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.9.R2/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]

Code:

LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY QQS QQW ZLS ZEP
MAD  Madrid Barajas ES [LEMD]
MON  28 May 2012 - 04 Jun 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
BA         456     LHR   06:15     MAD   09:40     320  0   1234567     02:25       5      4S   28 May   08 Jun
IB/BA      7441    LHR   06:15     MAD   09:40     320  0   1234567     02:25       5      4S   28 May   08 Jun
BA/IB      510     LHR   07:25     MAD   10:50     321  0   1234567     02:25       5       4   27 May   05 Oct
IB/##      3161    LHR   07:25     MAD   10:50     321  0   1234567     02:25       5       4   23 Apr   26 Nov
BA/IB      512     LHR   09:10     MAD   12:45     EQV  0   1234567     02:35       5       4   28 May   04 Jun
IB/##      3163    LHR   09:10     MAD   12:45     EQV  0   1234567     02:35       5       4   28 May   04 Jun
IB/BA      7469    LCY   09:35     MAD   13:00     E90  0   12345--     02:25       -      4S   08 May   01 Jun   Mon 04 Jun
BA/CJ      8753    LCY   09:35     MAD   13:00     E90  0   12345--     02:25       -      4S   08 May   01 Jun   Mon 04 Jun
IB/BA      7443    LHR   10:10     MAD   13:30     EQV  0   1234567     02:20       5      4S   28 May   04 Jun
BA         458     LHR   10:10     MAD   13:30     EQV  0   1234567     02:20       5      4S   28 May   04 Jun
BA/IB      514     LHR   11:05     MAD   14:35     321  0   1234567     02:30       5       4   01 Apr   27 Oct
IB/##      3175    LHR   11:05     MAD   14:35     321  0   1234567     02:30       5       4   11 Apr   27 Oct
IB/BA      7469    LCY   12:35     MAD   16:00     E90  0   1------     02:25       -      4S   04 Jun   04 Jun   Mon 28 May
BA/CJ      8753    LCY   12:35     MAD   16:00     E90  0   1------     02:25       -      4S   04 Jun   04 Jun   Mon 28 May
BA         460     LHR   12:40     MAD   16:00     EQV  0   1234567     02:20       5      4S   28 May   04 Jun
IB/BA      7445    LHR   12:40     MAD   16:00     EQV  0   1234567     02:20       5      4S   28 May   04 Jun
IB/BA      7449    LHR   14:00     MAD   17:25     EQV  0   1234567     02:25       5      4S   28 May   04 Jun
BA         464     LHR   14:00     MAD   17:25     EQV  0   1234567     02:25       5      4S   28 May   04 Jun
IB/##      3179    LHR   15:00     MAD   18:35     321  0   1234567     02:35       5       4   21 Apr   30 Mar
BA/IB      516     LHR   15:00     MAD   18:35     EQV  0   1234567     02:35       5       4   28 May   04 Jun
IB/BA      7447    LHR   15:15     MAD   18:40     767  0   1234567     02:25       5      4S   28 May   27 Oct
BA         462     LHR   15:15     MAD   18:40     767  0   1234567     02:25       5      4S   28 May   20 Jul
BA/IB      518     LHR   16:05     MAD   19:25     EQV  0   1234567     02:20       5       4   28 May   04 Jun
IB/##      3177    LHR   16:05     MAD   19:25     320  0   1234567     02:20       5       4   01 May   30 Mar
IB/##      3171    LHR   17:10     MAD   20:40     321  0   1234567     02:30       5       4   07 May   02 Sep
BA/IB      520     LHR   17:10     MAD   20:40     321  0   1234567     02:30       5       4   07 May   25 Jun
IB/BA      7465    LCY   18:40     MAD   22:00     E90  0   12345--     02:20       -      4S   07 May   01 Jun   Mon 04 Jun
BA/CJ      8755    LCY   18:40     MAD   22:00     E90  0   12345--     02:20       -      4S   07 May   01 Jun   Mon 04 Jun
IB/##      3167    LHR   18:40     MAD   22:10     EQV  0   12-45-7     02:30       5      4S   28 May   04 Jun
BA/IB      522     LHR   18:40     MAD   22:10     321  0   --3--6-     02:30       5       4   26 May   02 Jun
BA/IB      522     LHR   18:40     MAD   22:10     EQV  0   12-45-7     02:30       5      4S   28 May   04 Jun
IB/##      3167    LHR   18:40     MAD   22:10     321  0   --3--6-     02:30       5       4   28 Mar   27 Oct
IB/##      3173    LHR   19:35     MAD   22:55     321  0   1234567     02:20       5       4   01 May   30 Mar
BA/IB      524     LHR   19:35     MAD   22:55     321  0   1234567     02:20       5       4   01 May   02 Sep

Apr 25, 2012, 8:55 am

#52

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Redeem BA awards on AA.com

Just saw this cross the wires and did not see a post yet.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/aad...nes-2012-04-25

Apr 25, 2012, 9:16 am

#53

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There is an active thread pn theAA forum about this.

Apr 25, 2012, 9:19 am

#54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flyinghome

Just saw this cross the wires and did not see a post yet.

Interesting, I did a title search on {"BA"} and found this near the top

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...d-flights.html

What search terms did you try that missed this?

Cheers.

Apr 25, 2012, 9:41 am

#55

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I searched "redeem BA" sorry please just blow away the thread

Apr 25, 2012, 10:57 am

#56

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This is very cool! Can't wait for others to show up as well!

Apr 25, 2012, 12:10 pm

#57

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Great news indeed! I love an actual "improvement" to AA.com.

Apr 25, 2012, 12:35 pm

#58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Science Goy

So 'tis. Interisland flights and all. Too bad I paid the $25 phone booking fee for one of those just a couple days ago

You shouldn't have to pay for a partner award as EXP.

Apr 26, 2012, 9:14 am

#59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ExpatExp

No major taxes when you fly through LHR. Only when you originate there. What you're seeing is primarily BA's fuel surcharges.

When flying through LHR if you originate outside the UK there is no Air Passenger Duty (APD) levied. This is a UK government tax levied on departures only (ie, not on arrivals) and non-cheapest cabin (aka First, Business, Premium Economy) are charged twice the tax as cheapest cabin. The UK government has been increasing this tax at a rate that far exceeds inflation, and they have announced their intention to continue this. The amount of APD also varies by distance to destination (capitol city) and for long haul can approach $300 for premium class pax.

In addition there are passenger facility service charges levied by the airport. Those are charged for arrivals/departures/connections. LHR has service charges that are significantly higher than other major world airports. Connecting through LHR will almost always be more expensive than connecting through any other airport.

DAK

Apr 26, 2012, 9:24 am

#60

dkerr

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 3544quebec

... You save $1200 odd by starting in Brazil in the first place. Do any other countries have this YQ embargo?

Some governments do pay more attention. CX for example I believe needs HKG gov approval for their YQ charges, and have had to reduce them from time-to-time (have any other airlines ever reduced them?)

What I find so shocking is that these started out as a surcharge... something supposed to account for a temporary spike in fuel costs. I don't think there is anything temporary about these surcharges (nor the cost of fuel) any more. As such I think there should be some form of regulation around these surcharges. For example, a airline could have complete freedom to impose a surcharge and reduce them... but if they wanted to increase the charge then the prior amount must roll into the base fare and the new surcharge becomes the amount of the increase required. This would more accurately reflect what is going on with long-term fuel cost trends. And if fuel really does drop again, then competition will force down the base fares again.

DAK