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SeattleDavid May 9, 19 6:30 pm


Originally Posted by sam2k2002 (Post 31083635)
Fully separate tickets. The IBZ-LHR flight is BA-operated with an IB codeshare, not an AA codeshare.. my overseas itinerary is AA-merketed/AA-operated. Opting to include the IBZ-LHR leg triggered a $1000+ upcharge as the entire itinerary had to be priced using the BA codeshares for the AA flights.

Maybe Chase has some severe limitations, but usually it is cheaper to return from Europe than from London.

For the dates you mentioned I am seeing $800 (Y), $1500 (PEY) and $3800 (J) for LAX-LHR & IBZ-LAX. Just doing LAX-LHR seems to be $600, $1600 and $4000 respectively. I don't seen AA or BA requiring a $1000 upcharge.

If you're using Chase UR points then you may not be able to get these fares, but you should know all your options first :) Also, be aware that Chase (expedia) makes it quite hard to get the right codeshare for a flight.

sam2k2002 May 9, 19 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by SeattleDavid (Post 31085101)
Maybe Chase has some severe limitations, but usually it is cheaper to return from Europe than from London.

For the dates you mentioned I am seeing $800 (Y), $1500 (PEY) and $3800 (J) for LAX-LHR & IBZ-LAX. Just doing LAX-LHR seems to be $600, $1600 and $4000 respectively. I don't seen AA or BA requiring a $1000 upcharge.

If you're using Chase UR points then you may not be able to get these fares, but you should know all your options first :) Also, be aware that Chase (expedia) makes it quite hard to get the right codeshare for a flight.

That's exactly what I'm battling at the moment.. I actually just found the AA-marketed combination I am looking for: LAX-LHR & IBZ-LHR-LAX, however there is no option at the end of the chase checkout process to switch from Basic Economy to Economy. The AA EXP desk told me yesterday that there's something weird with the IBZ-LHR leg on BA that can only be priced out as Basic Economy for the overseas legs. Which is a dealbreaker. And when I do find the flight and class of service combination I need, its marketed by Iberia, so cant apply SWUs. Another dealbreaker. So the hunt continues..

KARFA May 10, 19 3:43 am


Originally Posted by tjcxx (Post 31084721)
3/ as you exit customs into the public area, turn right for either tube or Heathrow express (HEX). If you have contactless payment cards (separate one for each passenger) then take the tube. Tap in and out, and it won't charge you anything. It has a 10-minute frequency. Otherwise probably best to take HEX (15-minute frequency). You do not need a ticket from T5 to T3 and there are no barriers. HEX is slightly closer to the AA check-in at T3 than the tube.
Best of luck

This isn't true since May last year. There are now barriers and you do need a ticket. See Geordie405's comment upthread


For travel on the Heathrow Express train you need an Inter-Terminal Transfer ticket or you can use an Oyster Card or Contactless payment card to go through the barriers.
the tickets are available from marked machines on the ground floor after arrivals at T5 and at platform level.

anabolism May 10, 19 8:31 am


Originally Posted by sam2k2002 (Post 31083635)
Fully separate tickets. The IBZ-LHR flight is BA-operated with an IB codeshare, not an AA codeshare.. my overseas itinerary is AA-merketed/AA-operated. Opting to include the IBZ-LHR leg triggered a $1000+ upcharge as the entire itinerary had to be priced using the BA codeshares for the AA flights.

If you use a travel agent, the TA can put all flights in one PNR and issue separate tickets to take advantage of different fares. The benefit to having all flights in one record is that, in general, airlines are more willing to help when they can see connections in their PNR. When automated processes are involved (e.g., flight delays often trigger automated processes that check connections and rebook passengers) they can operate on the flights.

As others have pointed out, when multiple airlines are involved there will be multiple PNRs, but what's important is that all flights are booked and ticketed (single or multiple tickets) out of that PNR, so each airline can see all the flights.

sam2k2002 May 14, 19 10:35 am

UPDATE: I chose peace of mind and switched to a BA flight IBZ-LCY before my LHR-LAX that gives me 5 hours between flights. Don't want to side track the thread, but does anyone have experience transiting LCY to LHR?

JJeffrey May 14, 19 10:46 am


Originally Posted by sam2k2002 (Post 31100489)
UPDATE: I chose peace of mind and switched to a BA flight IBZ-LCY before my LHR-LAX that gives me 5 hours between flights. Don't want to side track the thread, but does anyone have experience transiting LCY to LHR?

There are some very relevant pointers just a few posts down :)

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...onnection.html

KARFA May 14, 19 10:51 am


Originally Posted by sam2k2002 (Post 31100489)
UPDATE: I chose peace of mind and switched to a BA flight IBZ-LCY before my LHR-LAX that gives me 5 hours between flights. Don't want to side track the thread, but does anyone have experience transiting LCY to LHR?

some information on options here https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...-possible.html

if you are happy to take public transport then DLR/tube/HEX should get you across in about 1.5 hrs or slightly less. options are

DLR to Canning Town, Jubilee to Green Park, Piccadilly to T5; or
DLR to Canning Town, Jubilee to Baker Street, Bakerloo to Padding, HEX to T5


UKtravelbear May 14, 19 10:58 am

Combination of the DLR/Jubilee/Piccadilly line is my recommendation. Also takes less than 1.5 hours and much cheaper than the HEX.

TomMM May 14, 19 3:25 pm


Originally Posted by UKtravelbear (Post 31100588)
Combination of the DLR/Jubilee/Piccadilly line is my recommendation. Also takes less than 1.5 hours and much cheaper than the HEX.

Which could give him a little time to visit London!

JDiver May 28, 19 10:16 pm

The Wikipost has been updated with this good news:


Arriving passengers with a passport from the European Union, Switzerland or, effective 20 May 2019, Australia, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea or USA can now use arrival immigration eGates without any fee or pre-registration requirement.

GUWonder May 29, 19 3:59 am


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 31148128)
The Wikipost has been updated with this good news:

Most people transiting LHR don’t clear the Border and enter the UK CTA, and so they don’t encounter the egates. The egates are relevant for those entering the UK-Ireland CTA but not to most passengers transiting LHR.

Even for those visiting London, lots of Americans can’t use the egates at LHR — as again became evident on Friday and Saturday at LHR T3, T5 and T2. The UK has blocked egate use at least for passports beings used by kids who are under 12 years of age.

anabolism May 29, 19 5:30 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 31148731)
Even for those visiting London, lots of Americans canít use the egates at LHR ó as again became evident on Friday and Saturday at LHR T3, T5 and T2. The UK has blocked egate use at least for passports beings used by kids who are under 12 years of age.

By "lots of Americans" do you mean just people under 12 (and by extension adults with them), or is the under-12 group (and accompanying adults) only an example of who can't use the gates, and there are others as well?

Flying Yazata May 31, 19 1:01 am


Originally Posted by carlosdca (Post 31084053)
OP is doing a landside connection, not sure if there is a bus. I only know of train (heathrow express or tube)

Yes, there is bus route 7 by First, Heathrow-Slough, which is part of Heathrow Freeflow (AKA Heathrow Free Travel Zone) and runs every 10-30 mins, 24/7. However I'm not sure I'd recommend it to someone who asks for advice on FT, because the connection with HEX is the best signed option for a terminal transfer. Furthermore you'd still be faster by Tube. Personally I don't opt for the HEX as it's less frequent than the Piccadilly line. In terms of ride speed, there's no real difference. But for the very occasional traveller I'd just say HEX with the printable free ticket from the ticketing machines.


Originally Posted by beachfan (Post 31084049)
ive waited a half hour for the bus from T5 to T3, plus 20 minutes for the ride.


Which is why I personally rather go landside and take the Piccadilly line to T3. At times there can be an awful queue for the airside bus, plus it's not that frequent always.

Flying Yazata May 31, 19 1:08 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 31100567)
if you are happy to take public transport then DLR/tube/HEX should get you across in about 1.5 hrs or slightly less. options are

DLR to Canning Town, Jubilee to Green Park, Piccadilly to T5; or
DLR to Canning Town, Jubilee to Baker Street, Bakerloo to Padding, HEX to T5



Adding my own favourite:

DLR to Stratford, Overground to West Brompton, District to Earl's Court and last, but not least: Piccadilly to LHR T3 or T5. Avoids zone 1. :)

Campion76 Jul 9, 19 1:54 pm

Apologies, I'm trying not to replicate a previous-answered question here, but I'm hoping you can help me out. I'm flying this weekend on a non-connecting flight from EWR-LHR on Virgin Atlantic (arriving T3, I assume), then transferring to a BA flight from T5 seven hours later.

I can either check or not check my luggage. Checking would be nice because it's a long trip and I'm not sure I can fit all my liquids into one quart-sized container (special contact lens solution). However, after reading through the instructions, it looks like it might just be easier to suck it up and carry on my suitcase at EWR, thus preventing the hassle of going all the way landside, going through security again, etc.

I would swear that a couple years ago, doing almost the same thing, when I got to T5 I was able to give my hand luggage (including a carry-on suitcase) to a BA rep somewhere in the middle of T5 and just leave it there for a few hours. I am sure I didn't pay for this service. However, I can't find anything on Heathrow's or BA's sites about this. Since I didn't pay, I don't think it was the left luggage service.

Can anyone tell me what this was and if it's still there? If not, do I have any options other than lugging a suitcase around T5 with me for seven hours (I don't have lounge access).


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