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Load Factor Based Upgrades (LFBU) and Day Of Departure Upgrades (DODU)
These generally relate to Non-elite, space-available, kiosk, online and counter upgrades which may be available close to departure if there is unused (after sales and pending upgrades) inventory once the flight has passed to airport control; these are available for payment (normally, credit card).
On line check in offers may be made at the time of check-in, including with the AA app.
Kiosk-based LFBUs may be offered at the Self-Service (Check-in) Machines ("kiosk") (and occasionally with online check-in) if there are seats available - as per the AA wording and the FAQ (see first post). One may be offered a LFBU on an award ticket.
Counter Upgrades may be offered at the ticket counter or Admirals Club in the USA or at non-stateside locations on occasion, usually announced by a small sign visible to passengers checking in at the ticket counter or Club. They may be offered (or not) and may cost as much as $750 (or more) for a longhaul transocean flight.
As per other upgrades, one earns miles / points at the level of the originally purchased fare.
Older posts have been archived here.
These generally relate to Non-elite, space-available, kiosk, online and counter upgrades which may be available close to departure if there is unused (after sales and pending upgrades) inventory once the flight has passed to airport control; these are available for payment (normally, credit card).
On line check in offers may be made at the time of check-in, including with the AA app.
Kiosk-based LFBUs may be offered at the Self-Service (Check-in) Machines ("kiosk") (and occasionally with online check-in) if there are seats available - as per the AA wording and the FAQ (see first post). One may be offered a LFBU on an award ticket.
Counter Upgrades may be offered at the ticket counter or Admirals Club in the USA or at non-stateside locations on occasion, usually announced by a small sign visible to passengers checking in at the ticket counter or Club. They may be offered (or not) and may cost as much as $750 (or more) for a longhaul transocean flight.
As per other upgrades, one earns miles / points at the level of the originally purchased fare.
Older posts have been archived here.
DOD / DODU (LFBU) Space-available, counter, kiosk, and online upgrade (master thd)
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DOD / DODU (LFBU) Space-available, counter, kiosk, and online upgrade (master thd)
Moderator guidepost / note:
The FAQ associated with LFBUs:
The Confirmed Upgrade option is a way for customers to enjoy the comfort of our premium cabins at an affordable price. This option is offered to passengers who aren't able to use 500-mile upgrades, either because they aren't AAdvantage members, or because they are traveling on fares that are not eligible. For more information about this option, please view our Self-Service FAQ section.
And from those FAQ:
See this aa.com page for SSCM information and locations: Self Service Check-in.
For current pricing information, please see more recent posts in this thread and the LFBU section of the wiki Upgrades page.
For the obsolete thread, now archived, please see LFBU: Non-elite, space-available, counter and kiosk upgrades (obsolete)
Moderator note: The new(er) and up to date LFBU thread was stared with a moderator's post from another thread coverted to the first post / guide post here.
The FAQ associated with LFBUs:
The Confirmed Upgrade option is a way for customers to enjoy the comfort of our premium cabins at an affordable price. This option is offered to passengers who aren't able to use 500-mile upgrades, either because they aren't AAdvantage members, or because they are traveling on fares that are not eligible. For more information about this option, please view our Self-Service FAQ section.
And from those FAQ:
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Q: What is the Confirmed Upgrade option?
A: The Confirmed Upgrade option is a way for customers to enjoy
the comfort of our premium cabins at an affordable price. This option
is offered to passengers who aren't able to use 500-mile upgrades.
In these situations, the Confirmed Upgrade option makes unused
premium cabin seats available on the day of departure.
Q: How do Confirmed Upgrades work?
A: If seats are available in the premium class cabin four hours
before departure and flights in your itinerary are eligible for an
upgrade, a customized message will be displayed during your
check-in process at the Self-Service machine. You can then
choose whether to purchase an upgrade, and then pay with a
credit card. A receipt for the upgrade will be printed, along
with your boarding pass, at the end of the transaction.
(Note - this purchase does not result in the deposit of
500-mile upgrades into your account. The charge is paid
and you are upgraded to the premium cabin on the flight(s)
you selected.)
Q: On what flights is the Confirmed Upgrade option offered?
A: Passengers traveling on flights within the 48 contiguous United
States, U.S. Virgin Islands, or Puerto Rico can purchase an upgrade,
even if they are traveling on AAdvantage award tickets. The upgrade
is offered on a space-available basis on your day of travel.
Q: Can I pay for Confirmed Upgrades in advance at a lower price?
A: The Confirmed Upgrade option is only available on the day of
travel at a cost of $45 per 500 miles.
Q: If I don't use the Self-Service machine for check-in, can I still use
the Confirmed Upgrade option? What if I check-in at home using AA.com?
A: The Confirmed Upgrade option is only offered via the Self-Service
machine. If you first check in on AA.com, you can still use the Self-
Service machine at the airport. If the Confirmed Upgrade option is
offered for your flight, you can choose to upgrade, following the
usual procedures.
Q: Will the Confirmed Upgrade option reduce the number of premium
class seats available to full-fare and AAdvantage elite customers?
A: No. Upgrades via Self Service will be offered only after we've
determined that sufficient premium seats are available to accommodate
customers who want to buy full-fare tickets and to AAdvantage elite
members who wish to upgrade.
Q: As an AAdvantage elite member traveling on an award
ticket, can I use the Confirmed Upgrade option?
A: If the Confirmed Upgrade option is available on a flight for
which you are using an AAdvantage award ticket, then it will be
offered when you check in using the Self-Service machine.
For current pricing information, please see more recent posts in this thread and the LFBU section of the wiki Upgrades page.
For the obsolete thread, now archived, please see LFBU: Non-elite, space-available, counter and kiosk upgrades (obsolete)
Moderator note: The new(er) and up to date LFBU thread was stared with a moderator's post from another thread coverted to the first post / guide post here.
Last edited by JDiver; Nov 28, 2013 at 6:55 am Reason: edit for WikiPost addition
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Join Date: Feb 2014
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Paid upgrade (equivalent to UA)?
I switched from UA to AA this year. One thing I miss from UA was their ability/proclivity to offer confirmed upgrades to BusinessFirst on United PS for a modest fee (~$280 or so) a day or two out from departure, generally via e-mail or on web/mobile app. Is there any way to secure similar from AA?
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I switched from UA to AA this year. One thing I miss from UA was their ability/proclivity to offer confirmed upgrades to BusinessFirst on United PS for a modest fee (~$280 or so) a day or two out from departure, generally via e-mail or on web/mobile app. Is there any way to secure similar from AA?
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Some posts discussing upgrades which weren't LFBUs have been moved to this thread:
AA and US cross program and merged FFP upgrade questions (merged threads)
~Moderator
AA and US cross program and merged FFP upgrade questions (merged threads)
~Moderator
#5
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 61
Paid Upgrade chances at OLCI
Hi,
Newbie to this forum, hoping you might be able to help me?
Im flying MCO-NYC return later in the year and trying to decide which fare to buy, currently business/first is a bit expensive for me, so i was wondering if i buy an economy fare is it likely i will be offered a reasonable cash upgrade at OLCI (Subject to load)
I have no AA Status or Miles, I am BA Silver if that helps at all.
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to offer me, i have searched the forum and haven't been able to find an answer to my question.
Newbie to this forum, hoping you might be able to help me?
Im flying MCO-NYC return later in the year and trying to decide which fare to buy, currently business/first is a bit expensive for me, so i was wondering if i buy an economy fare is it likely i will be offered a reasonable cash upgrade at OLCI (Subject to load)
I have no AA Status or Miles, I am BA Silver if that helps at all.
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to offer me, i have searched the forum and haven't been able to find an answer to my question.
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I'm assuming that premium demand might be low on the route because it's to a primarily leisure destination, but I can also see elites traveling to/from Orlando on vacation using the chance to upgrade.
How much is reasonable for you? I would expect an upgrade on that flight to cost between $100 and $150.
How much is reasonable for you? I would expect an upgrade on that flight to cost between $100 and $150.
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There is no way of predicting likelihood. Especially this far out. Further, with the US/AA combination inching forward, schedule changes, aircraft changes and the like, alter F availability more and more every day.
I would not remotely plan a schedule around the chances of an UG.
I would not remotely plan a schedule around the chances of an UG.
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You may be setting yourself up for disappointment if you count on a paid upgrade. By most accounts, AA is lagging UA and DL in selling UGs to the general public at OLCI prior to clearing elite UG requests. Of course, fall is a while off and that policy may change, but personally, I would not count on it.
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I've tried searching for this, but couldn't find an answer. If there are multiple passengers on a single PNR, and one decides to do an LFBU if it becomes available, do they need to split the PNR? I'm asking because of the standby inheritance policy for elites.
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Location: YVR
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Ok, for a data point
DFW-MEX $110USD, I accepted, wanted to try the product and get to the front of the customs line.
Now what I'm looking for folks, I'm not depending on an upgrade, but I am curious if anyone could ballpark the cost. $110 for the MEX flight I thought was very reasonable, Air Canada's are crazy so I never take them. I have no AA status, I was on the lowest fare bucket as well.
Bought a trip upcoming with a lengthy red eye SEA-MIA in early Sep. Any thoughts on what that might cost if available? Tuesday night FWIW, and Sep is relatively low season, so I'm thinking traffic up front would likely be kinda slim. I'll probably accept anything <$200, but I'm more just curious if you guys had any kind of ballpark idea .
DFW-MEX $110USD, I accepted, wanted to try the product and get to the front of the customs line.
Now what I'm looking for folks, I'm not depending on an upgrade, but I am curious if anyone could ballpark the cost. $110 for the MEX flight I thought was very reasonable, Air Canada's are crazy so I never take them. I have no AA status, I was on the lowest fare bucket as well.
Bought a trip upcoming with a lengthy red eye SEA-MIA in early Sep. Any thoughts on what that might cost if available? Tuesday night FWIW, and Sep is relatively low season, so I'm thinking traffic up front would likely be kinda slim. I'll probably accept anything <$200, but I'm more just curious if you guys had any kind of ballpark idea .
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Now what I'm looking for folks, I'm not depending on an upgrade, but I am curious if anyone could ballpark the cost. $110 for the MEX flight I thought was very reasonable, Air Canada's are crazy so I never take them. I have no AA status, I was on the lowest fare bucket as well.
Bought a trip upcoming with a lengthy red eye SEA-MIA in early Sep. Any thoughts on what that might cost if available? Tuesday night FWIW, and Sep is relatively low season, so I'm thinking traffic up front would likely be kinda slim. I'll probably accept anything <$200, but I'm more just curious if you guys had any kind of ballpark idea .
Bought a trip upcoming with a lengthy red eye SEA-MIA in early Sep. Any thoughts on what that might cost if available? Tuesday night FWIW, and Sep is relatively low season, so I'm thinking traffic up front would likely be kinda slim. I'll probably accept anything <$200, but I'm more just curious if you guys had any kind of ballpark idea .
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