Jun 6, 2015, 3:53 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
AA Elites Benefits Flying AS / Alaska Airlines Discontinued 1 Jan 2018 Including domestic earning AA miles and status flying AS
For travel starting January 1, 2018
Earn and redeem AAdvantage® miles for travel on Alaska Airlines within the U.S. and between the U.S. and:
Earn miles on Alaska Airlines only when flying on American Airlines* codeshare flights.
Flying as an AA marketed flight (“AA codeshare”) continue to earn as if you were flying AA:
Flying domestic Alaska flights marketed as Alaska flight numbers do NOT earn any AAdvantage credit as of 1/1/2018 other than if marketed by American Airlines. AA codeshares are operated by Alaska and Horizon, not Virgin America.
Previously offered. AA AAdvantage status-based perquisites are no longer applicable.
Benefits offered to AAdvantage elite members flying on Alaska Airlines are discontinued at this time.
No changes will be made to award travel; AAdvantage members can still redeem miles for travel on Alaska Airlines. (link) [/quote]
Benefits offered to AAdvantage elite members flying on Alaska Airlines (were) will also be discontinued at this time.
[SIZE=“3”]N.B. The reciprocal lounge access agreement for Admirals Club members will continue. [/SIZE]
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For travel starting January 1, 2018
Earn and redeem AAdvantage® miles for travel on Alaska Airlines within the U.S. and between the U.S. and:
- Canada
- Central America
- Mexico
Flying as an AA marketed flight (“AA codeshare”) continue to earn as if you were flying AA:
- Award miles
- Elite mileage bonus
- EQDs
- EQMs
- EQSs
- Minimum EQM guarantee
Previously offered. AA AAdvantage status-based perquisites are no longer applicable.
Benefits offered to AAdvantage elite members flying on Alaska Airlines are discontinued at this time.
No changes will be made to award travel; AAdvantage members can still redeem miles for travel on Alaska Airlines. (link) [/quote]
Benefits offered to AAdvantage elite members flying on Alaska Airlines (were) will also be discontinued at this time.
[SIZE=“3”]N.B. The reciprocal lounge access agreement for Admirals Club members will continue. [/SIZE]
Earning AAdvantage miles on Alaska Airlines (including Horizon Air) Link to AS earning chart on aa.com
"Earn miles (ends 1/1/18 except AA codeshares):
To earn AAdvantage® miles when you fly on Alaska Airlines marketed and operated flights as well as Alaska Airlines codeshare flights operated by American Airlines:
Note:No miles are earned on AS flights in fare classes not published on aa.com as miles-earning
"Earn miles (ends 1/1/18 except AA codeshares):
To earn AAdvantage® miles when you fly on Alaska Airlines marketed and operated flights as well as Alaska Airlines codeshare flights operated by American Airlines:
- Buy an eligible International published fare ticket booked in an eligible booking code and
- Fly an eligible route
- Specific flights, routes or cities that are excluded from earning miles or award travel are listed as exceptions if applicable."
Note:No miles are earned on AS flights in fare classes not published on aa.com as miles-earning
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Travel ticketed as an American Airlines marketed flight (booked as an AA flight number) and operated by Alaska Airlines will always (including after 1/1/18) be credited AAdvantage base, award, elite qualifying miles and segments according to the AA mileage accrual chart.
Travel ticketed as an American Airlines marketed flight (booked as an AA flight number) and operated by Alaska Airlines will always (including after 1/1/18) be credited AAdvantage base, award, elite qualifying miles and segments according to the AA mileage accrual chart.
ENDED: AA Elite Status Benefits & Most AA Miles Earning on Alaska Airlines (AS)
Feb 8, 2018, 8:23 am
#406
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Unless you booked before last summer, you can't even credit AS metal to AA.
Feb 8, 2018, 8:31 am
#407
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Gonna have to blame AA’s program rules and the DOJ for this one.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...a-airlines.jsp
“AAdvantage members will be able to earn on Alaska Airlines only as American-marketed flights (booked as an AA flight number)”
AA isn’t going to slap a codeshare on a compeitor’s flight in a directly competitive market (JFK-LAX). In fact, this was prohibited by the terms of the AS/VX merger.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...a-airlines.jsp
“AAdvantage members will be able to earn on Alaska Airlines only as American-marketed flights (booked as an AA flight number)”
AA isn’t going to slap a codeshare on a compeitor’s flight in a directly competitive market (JFK-LAX). In fact, this was prohibited by the terms of the AS/VX merger.
Last edited by eponymous_coward; Feb 8, 2018 at 7:09 pm
Feb 8, 2018, 10:00 am
#408
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Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
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Feb 8, 2018, 11:22 am
#409
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
Programs: AA, DL, AS, VA, WS Silver
Posts: 5,950
So I'm flying JFK-LAX in a week and half, entered my AA number on the AS website, no problem. I call to ask a question, they ask if I want to change my number since there is no agreement between VX and AA to credit. I said, I booked this flight with AS shouldn't those rules apply. Am I the only one that thinks this is stupid?
The other is that VX and AA never have been and never will be partners. The American web site was very clear about the earning rules back when you could earn AA miles from flying AS: flights must be marketed by Alaska Airlines and operated by Alaska Airlines or American Airlines to be eligible for credit under the Alaska Airlines award chart. The situation was the exact same in the US/AA merger (except that the AA-AS partnership didn't end): US and AS were never partners, so US-marketed or operated flights were never eligible to earn AS miles. Former US routes only became eligible for AS earning when the US reservation system went away. The back-end effort for VX and AA to develop a frequent flyer partnership wasn't worth it because VX was going away, just like the back-end effort for US and AS to develop a partnership wasn't worth it.
(This is really a question about AAdvantage earning, so it belongs in the AAdvantage forum.)
Feb 8, 2018, 3:11 pm
#410
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: LHR
Programs: AA
Posts: 773
So I'm flying JFK-LAX in a week and half, entered my AA number on the AS website, no problem. I call to ask a question, they ask if I want to change my number since there is no agreement between VX and AA to credit. I said, I booked this flight with AS shouldn't those rules apply. Am I the only one that thinks this is stupid?
Feb 8, 2018, 7:05 pm
#411
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AA doesn't slap their codeshare on VX flights, so OP is doomed, but you can credit certain AS flights.
Last edited by eponymous_coward; Feb 8, 2018 at 7:10 pm
Mar 28, 2018, 8:08 pm
#412
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vail, CO
Programs: AA EXP/1mm, Marriott Titanium/LT Gold, UA Silver
Posts: 624
I think I am following correct here - but I will not be able to use AA elite benefits (free checked bag, etc) when flying on an Alaska flight marketed and sold with an AA flight # right?
Mar 29, 2018, 7:31 am
#413
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
Programs: AA, DL, AS, VA, WS Silver
Posts: 5,950
Correct. Main exception is if it’s a connecting itinerary and your first flight of the day (ie the airline you check in with) is operated by AA (mainline or Eagle), you will of course get the bag fee waiver.
Mar 29, 2018, 7:43 am
#414
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For example, flying SEA-LAX-HKG where the first flight is AS and the second is AA. AA baggage rules are supposed to apply
Mar 29, 2018, 8:20 am
#415
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: YYF/YLW
Programs: AA, DL, AS, VA, WS Silver
Posts: 5,950
Right, but that’s not a status benefit. It’s just the ticketed bag allowance, which always applies.
That reminds me that AA eticket often quote the free bags for elites as part of the ticketed allowance. If they do, that’s legally binding on all operating carriers on the ticket, though there was a recent report in these forums of AS not following that. AS did refund the fee when asked.
Apr 10, 2018, 11:39 am
#416
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Flew a roundtrip on AS last weekend with AA codeshares (AA CLT-SEA, AS SEA-FAI-SEA, AA SEA-DFW-CLT). On the outbound I was auto assigned 6F in Alaska Premium, their MCE at check in. No status printed on my BP but when the agent scanned it it read "AAP". On the way back I was atuo assigned 22A and I paid $75 for Premium. RDM, EQM, EQS and MM Miles all posted within 24 hours of the flights.
One thing to note, I checked in with AS in FAI and got BPs for my AA flights as well as an AA mobile BP. When I got to SEA I noticed I wasn't on the upgrade list so I had to go to the gate and get added.
One thing to note, I checked in with AS in FAI and got BPs for my AA flights as well as an AA mobile BP. When I got to SEA I noticed I wasn't on the upgrade list so I had to go to the gate and get added.
Apr 11, 2018, 4:22 pm
#417
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Right, but that’s not a status benefit. It’s just the ticketed bag allowance, which always applies.
That reminds me that AA eticket often quote the free bags for elites as part of the ticketed allowance. If they do, that’s legally binding on all operating carriers on the ticket, though there was a recent report in these forums of AS not following that. AS did refund the fee when asked.
Apr 14, 2018, 12:09 am
#418
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 328
AA Codeshare on AS metal = No AA checked bag benefit?
Sorry for the extra clarification attempt here, but is that correct? Or are all AA marketed flights eligible for AA eliete benefits regardless of the metal?
Sorry for the extra clarification attempt here, but is that correct? Or are all AA marketed flights eligible for AA eliete benefits regardless of the metal?
Apr 26, 2018, 11:33 am
#419
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 328
Maybe I should just start a new thread on this, eh?
Apr 26, 2018, 11:41 am
#420
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But no AA elite benefits flying AS, even as an AA marketed / codeshare flight, any longer. Essentially, this was a loss incurred when Alaska took Virgin America. Much like flying an AA marketed flight on another non-oneworld partner airline, such as Air Fiji or Air Tahiti Nui. No AA perks at all.