Jan 25, 2014, 2:56 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
Be sure to check the lengthy http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...elections.html and oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on threads, as many members have posted questions - and useful answers - there. See the wiki posts for informative summaries.
Also be aware - AA have reduced capacity and apparently chosen to make MileSAAver flights significantly less available during predicted periods of high demand and high demand flights, undoubtedly keeping seats available for those willing to pay higher fares and use the new tiered AAnytime awards.
Older posts as of 1 Jan 2015 and later may be found in thd archived thread ARCHIVE: MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction discussion post 2015 AAdvantage merger
Older posts may dating from Aug 2011 through the AAdvantage program merger January 2015 be found in the archived thread here.
MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction / scarcity discussion
Mar 2, 2019, 4:01 pm
#1711
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,695
If you want to get really into the married segment weeds, venture into the world of outstations and trying to find award space using a partner miles currency. I'd like to figure out how to burn some Alaska miles (Alaska doesn't fly anywhere particularly close to me) and a search on their web site to redeem for American tickets gets me:
1) only mixed cabin options with of course the transtlantic leg in Y
2) routings like DUB-PHL-TPA-CLT-VPS (yes, I have to go into Florida twice in order to get home) or DUB-PHL-PVD-DCA-VPS or DUB-PHL-GSO-DCA-VPS
1) only mixed cabin options with of course the transtlantic leg in Y
2) routings like DUB-PHL-TPA-CLT-VPS (yes, I have to go into Florida twice in order to get home) or DUB-PHL-PVD-DCA-VPS or DUB-PHL-GSO-DCA-VPS
Mar 2, 2019, 5:55 pm
#1712
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,750
If you want to get really into the married segment weeds, venture into the world of outstations and trying to find award space using a partner miles currency. I'd like to figure out how to burn some Alaska miles (Alaska doesn't fly anywhere particularly close to me) and a search on their web site to redeem for American tickets gets me:
1) only mixed cabin options with of course the transtlantic leg in Y
2) routings like DUB-PHL-TPA-CLT-VPS (yes, I have to go into Florida twice in order to get home) or DUB-PHL-PVD-DCA-VPS or DUB-PHL-GSO-DCA-VPS
1) only mixed cabin options with of course the transtlantic leg in Y
2) routings like DUB-PHL-TPA-CLT-VPS (yes, I have to go into Florida twice in order to get home) or DUB-PHL-PVD-DCA-VPS or DUB-PHL-GSO-DCA-VPS
Other gems were with connections at PHL or CLT the most frequently showing up connection on virtually any search on any route out of South Florida - this is when there are SIX MIA-JFK, or EIGHT MIA-LAX daily flights, but no, 90% of the dates there is none nonstop flight has Savver.
When I cannot find the MIA-JFK whether in Y or in J, I turn to buy a DL or JetBlue from FLL revenue ticket instead. I dont think I am in minority in doing so.
They can continue to hawk their CCs and even reduce the benefits like cut the 10% rebate by May 1st - they would not see people putting real spend on their cards. When and if Citi wakes up and no longer sending out those mailers, there would be the end of AA's cash cow that is its ONLY profitable business segment as an airline for the whole of 2018 and prior.
Mar 2, 2019, 5:59 pm
#1713
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,750
However I have seen AS shows spaces with overnight connections that AA would not show. in the old days of Last In First Out otherwise the domestic connection was limited to 4 hours. AS showed some connections that you had to call AA to book.
Mar 2, 2019, 6:35 pm
#1714
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,695
My limited data suggests that AS is pulling AA award inventory by leg but I want to confirm.
Mar 2, 2019, 8:13 pm
#1715
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,750
I only use O/D to check availability, never multi-city. I have no clue how AS pulls inventory from AA inventory issued to them.
Mar 2, 2019, 10:31 pm
#1716
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,695
AA shows
AAA-BBB shows milesaaver space in Y & F
BBB-CCC shows milesaaver space in Y
AAA-CCC shows milesaaver space in Y & F
AS shows
AAA-BBB shows milesaaver space in Y & F
BBB-CCC shows milesaaver space in Y
AAA-CCC O&D search shows milesaaver space in spilt F/Y (AAA-BBB in F; BBB-CCC in Y)
AAA-CCC multicity search shows milesaaver space Y and split F/Y (AAA-BBB in F; BBB-CCC in Y)
Why doesn’t an AS AAA-CCC O&D search show Y and F?
Mar 18, 2019, 11:59 am
#1718
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bay Area
Programs: DL SM, UA MP.
Posts: 12,729
Appears BA showed off their new J hard product, 1-2-1 cabins with new seats with doors on the A350s and then presumably retrofitted to the existing fleet over time.
So higher fuel surcharges on awards using AA miles once all their TATL fleet has been upgraded?
So higher fuel surcharges on awards using AA miles once all their TATL fleet has been upgraded?
Mar 18, 2019, 12:07 pm
#1719
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
Programs: American Airlines
Posts: 29,993
Apr 24, 2019, 11:37 am
#1721
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: AUS
Programs: BAEC Gold, AA PPro, Hyatt Globalist, Amex Plat
Posts: 7,039
Regards
Apr 24, 2019, 2:53 pm
#1722
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 285
There continues to be surprisingly good business saver awards, on AA-operated flights, at least outbound, from the eastern US to Europe (have looked at/booked to LHR and BCN) for summer 2019 from about July 7-August 26. About half the days have at least 1 saver business award, generally Saturday-Wednesdays, with some fluctuations.
Apr 24, 2019, 6:08 pm
#1723
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: CLT
Programs: AA ExPlat, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,551
I have scanned the thread and didn't come across what I was curious about. Let me ask again a little clearer.
Has anyone stumbled on recently any non-stop business saaver availability from Charlotte to Europe for 2 in the next 330 days? I know there is a dearth out there and it seems even less than the pittance it used to be. Even the LHR, BCN suggestions in the post above aren't showing up for non-stop.
It used to be you could find a stray CLT - CDG or CLT - LHR. Now nothing.
Apr 25, 2019, 11:02 am
#1724
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: AUS
Programs: BAEC Gold, AA PPro, Hyatt Globalist, Amex Plat
Posts: 7,039
Sorry to have made such a low effort post. :-)
I have scanned the thread and didn't come across what I was curious about. Let me ask again a little clearer.
Has anyone stumbled on recently any non-stop business saaver availability from Charlotte to Europe for 2 in the next 330 days? I know there is a dearth out there and it seems even less than the pittance it used to be. Even the LHR, BCN suggestions in the post above aren't showing up for non-stop.
It used to be you could find a stray CLT - CDG or CLT - LHR. Now nothing.
I have scanned the thread and didn't come across what I was curious about. Let me ask again a little clearer.
Has anyone stumbled on recently any non-stop business saaver availability from Charlotte to Europe for 2 in the next 330 days? I know there is a dearth out there and it seems even less than the pittance it used to be. Even the LHR, BCN suggestions in the post above aren't showing up for non-stop.
It used to be you could find a stray CLT - CDG or CLT - LHR. Now nothing.
There no longer seems to be much rhyme or reason (i.e. consistent patterns) to the way that AA is choosing to make Saaver awards available. That is the very point that much of this thread has been discussing.
Regards
Apr 27, 2019, 11:12 am
#1725
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
Sorry to have made such a low effort post. :-)
I have scanned the thread and didn't come across what I was curious about. Let me ask again a little clearer.
Has anyone stumbled on recently any non-stop business saaver availability from Charlotte to Europe for 2 in the next 330 days? I know there is a dearth out there and it seems even less than the pittance it used to be. Even the LHR, BCN suggestions in the post above aren't showing up for non-stop.
It used to be you could find a stray CLT - CDG or CLT - LHR. Now nothing.
I have scanned the thread and didn't come across what I was curious about. Let me ask again a little clearer.
Has anyone stumbled on recently any non-stop business saaver availability from Charlotte to Europe for 2 in the next 330 days? I know there is a dearth out there and it seems even less than the pittance it used to be. Even the LHR, BCN suggestions in the post above aren't showing up for non-stop.
It used to be you could find a stray CLT - CDG or CLT - LHR. Now nothing.