Jan 25, 2014, 2:56 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
Be sure to check the lengthy http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...elections.html and oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on threads, as many members have posted questions - and useful answers - there. See the wiki posts for informative summaries.
Also be aware - AA have reduced capacity and apparently chosen to make MileSAAver flights significantly less available during predicted periods of high demand and high demand flights, undoubtedly keeping seats available for those willing to pay higher fares and use the new tiered AAnytime awards.
Older posts as of 1 Jan 2015 and later may be found in thd archived thread ARCHIVE: MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction discussion post 2015 AAdvantage merger
Older posts may dating from Aug 2011 through the AAdvantage program merger January 2015 be found in the archived thread here.
MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction / scarcity discussion
Jan 12, 2019, 7:31 am
#1696
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Had been watching Lax-NRT/HND routes (had expertflyer alerts set up) for the past month for travel this week. They finally open some C upgrade space around 24hrs out but zero award biz saver seats
I know someone on the NRT flight today and 1/2 of the biz cabin went out empty
luckily I found Jal award seat and flew them over in F
I know someone on the NRT flight today and 1/2 of the biz cabin went out empty
luckily I found Jal award seat and flew them over in F
Jan 12, 2019, 11:20 am
#1698
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Jan 12, 2019, 2:33 pm
#1699
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A heads up, found some J availability in the 6:30 am Bos-Lax 3 class in early September for 25k miles (should be 32.5k if they meant to release them at all).
if anyone finds J or F saver Lax-Jfk or LAX -Bos, please send me a PM. They used to have a couple of flights with saver award lax-JFK RT released for summer 2019 but that practice seems to have ended.
if anyone finds J or F saver Lax-Jfk or LAX -Bos, please send me a PM. They used to have a couple of flights with saver award lax-JFK RT released for summer 2019 but that practice seems to have ended.
Feb 19, 2019, 1:25 pm
#1700
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Location: Bay Area
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There are TATL J saver awards out of the Bay Area but they're typically 20-25 hours each way and of course carry hefty fees, like $1200.
So I checked some transcons and the only nonstop J transcons I see are redeeming on AS for 50k, either SFO or SJC to EWR. There may have been some to JFK as well.
Has anyone redeemed AS domestic J savers with AA miles? They seem to fly 737s in a 2-2 config. Maybe some of these are former Virgin America flights, so the soft and hard product may vary?
So I checked some transcons and the only nonstop J transcons I see are redeeming on AS for 50k, either SFO or SJC to EWR. There may have been some to JFK as well.
Has anyone redeemed AS domestic J savers with AA miles? They seem to fly 737s in a 2-2 config. Maybe some of these are former Virgin America flights, so the soft and hard product may vary?
Feb 19, 2019, 2:22 pm
#1701
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca
Programs: AA 2MM LT PLT; AS MVP Gold75k; HHonors Diamond; IHG PLT
Posts: 3,502
There are TATL J saver awards out of the Bay Area but they're typically 20-25 hours each way and of course carry hefty fees, like $1200.
So I checked some transcons and the only nonstop J transcons I see are redeeming on AS for 50k, either SFO or SJC to EWR. There may have been some to JFK as well.
Has anyone redeemed AS domestic J savers with AA miles? They seem to fly 737s in a 2-2 config. Maybe some of these are former Virgin America flights, so the soft and hard product may vary?
So I checked some transcons and the only nonstop J transcons I see are redeeming on AS for 50k, either SFO or SJC to EWR. There may have been some to JFK as well.
Has anyone redeemed AS domestic J savers with AA miles? They seem to fly 737s in a 2-2 config. Maybe some of these are former Virgin America flights, so the soft and hard product may vary?
AS is planning to add new Recaro its F seats on all aircraft this year https://www.alaskaair.com/content/tr...craft-upgrades
Is it worth 50k miles RT? I would say definitely yes for evening and afternoon meal flights, borderline if you can get Y+ for 10k to 12.5k miles.
Feb 25, 2019, 9:01 am
#1703
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Feb 25, 2019, 10:29 am
#1704
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Of course AA management couldn't care less.
Feb 25, 2019, 10:53 am
#1705
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Programs: Avios
Posts: 438
Feb 25, 2019, 11:11 am
#1706
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I am trying to go from CDG-MIA this summer on a 747 in F but cannot. It won't connect me through LHR, so I tried to book just LHR-MIA as I can get a cheap flight to LHR from CDG. Nope - it will only route me through BOS. I tried just LHR-JFK - nope. Still through BOS - won't send me LHR-JFK on any combo I tried except LHR-CLT. So, I booked that and will book my own flights CDG-LHR/CLT-MIA. Just utter nonsense. (I want to fly in F on a 747 before they disappear, so this is the price I have to pay).
Feb 25, 2019, 11:16 am
#1707
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 6,545
the only way it makes sense is if AA thinks that pricey & inconvenient award travel drives more paid travel revenue than it loses through member dissatisfaction with the program.
one certainly can't argue it is unknowable proposition, as AA is running quite the experiment these days.
one certainly can't argue it is unknowable proposition, as AA is running quite the experiment these days.
Feb 25, 2019, 11:34 am
#1708
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,433
the only way it makes sense is if AA thinks that pricey & inconvenient award travel drives more paid travel revenue than it loses through member dissatisfaction with the program.
one certainly can't argue it is unknowable proposition, as AA is running quite the experiment these days.
one certainly can't argue it is unknowable proposition, as AA is running quite the experiment these days.
Feb 25, 2019, 12:39 pm
#1709
Join Date: Aug 2016
Programs: Avios
Posts: 438
the only way it makes sense is if AA thinks that pricey & inconvenient award travel drives more paid travel revenue than it loses through member dissatisfaction with the program.
one certainly can't argue it is unknowable proposition, as AA is running quite the experiment these days.
one certainly can't argue it is unknowable proposition, as AA is running quite the experiment these days.
Feb 25, 2019, 1:59 pm
#1710
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And this doesn't even touch on the absurd married segment nonsense. As an example, from Miami, you have to fly MIA-CLT-LHR, but from Charlotte, you have to fly CLT-MIA-LHR. Makes absolutely zero sense to add extra segments and remove capacity which can be used for paying pax just to discourage use of direct flights (I understand they are trying to force you to a cash purchase to avoid the connection, but they are essentially giving us the finger by doing this).
1) only mixed cabin options with of course the transtlantic leg in Y
2) routings like DUB-PHL-TPA-CLT-VPS (yes, I have to go into Florida twice in order to get home) or DUB-PHL-PVD-DCA-VPS or DUB-PHL-GSO-DCA-VPS