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Be sure to check the lengthy http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...elections.html and oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on threads, as many members have posted questions - and useful answers - there. See the wiki posts for informative summaries.
Also be aware - AA have reduced capacity and apparently chosen to make MileSAAver flights significantly less available during predicted periods of high demand and high demand flights, undoubtedly keeping seats available for those willing to pay higher fares and use the new tiered AAnytime awards.
Older posts as of 1 Jan 2015 and later may be found in thd archived thread ARCHIVE: MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction discussion post 2015 AAdvantage merger
Older posts may dating from Aug 2011 through the AAdvantage program merger January 2015 be found in the archived thread here.
MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction / scarcity discussion
#1531
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 92
Thinking about it, absolutely no reason. Actually, I was looking for J seats, which I try to book at the earliest. Not only were there no J seats on Thursday or Friday, there were no Y MS. Hence, my question. Might as well wait at this point.
#1533
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: MSY; 2-time FT Fantasy Football Champ, now in recovery.
Programs: AA lifetime GLD; UA Silver; Marriott LTTE; IHG Plat,
Posts: 14,517
I just found sAAver award for a midday nonstop CLT-MSY on the Sunday after Thanksgiving, a day notorious for no sAAver availability and 75K domestic coach one way AAnytime pricing. I feel like I've spotted a unicorn.
#1534
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 102
Very frustrating. Looking to book business milesaaver award for my wife and I for return for Europe. For the last 2-3 days, it gives me several options on the dates that I am considering. I click on that flight to complete the process and it states that booking is no longer available. I then click on a different booking through a different connecting city and get the same response - no longer available.
I delete cookies, go away for a few hours. When I come back and input parameters, it shows those unavailable flights as available. I then repeat the entire process and UNAVAILABLE. This has gone on for a couple days. Why do they show the itinerary as an option if you cannot actually book it?
I delete cookies, go away for a few hours. When I come back and input parameters, it shows those unavailable flights as available. I then repeat the entire process and UNAVAILABLE. This has gone on for a couple days. Why do they show the itinerary as an option if you cannot actually book it?
#1535
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca
Programs: AA 2MM LT PLT; AS MVP Gold75k; HHonors Diamond; IHG PLT
Posts: 3,502
Very frustrating. Looking to book business milesaaver award for my wife and I for return for Europe. For the last 2-3 days, it gives me several options on the dates that I am considering. I click on that flight to complete the process and it states that booking is no longer available. I then click on a different booking through a different connecting city and get the same response - no longer available.
I delete cookies, go away for a few hours. When I come back and input parameters, it shows those unavailable flights as available. I then repeat the entire process and UNAVAILABLE. This has gone on for a couple days. Why do they show the itinerary as an option if you cannot actually book it?
I delete cookies, go away for a few hours. When I come back and input parameters, it shows those unavailable flights as available. I then repeat the entire process and UNAVAILABLE. This has gone on for a couple days. Why do they show the itinerary as an option if you cannot actually book it?
#1536
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 102
Happens with deep discounted revenue tickets as well. Likely an issue where the second seat is not available on one of the legs, confusing the system. Best option is to reduce the number of passengers, try again. In my experience, it will often go through, simply put it on hold, repeat search for the second seat, question if revenue management will release it within the hold period of the first seat - typically 7 days. If not, it may be necessary to book the second at the anytime rate to assure a business seat, or try to book the saver in economy, in the hope that a second business seat will eventually be released - in some cases, 1 week or so before departure date. There will be no change fee to add miles to upfare a saver economy to saver (or anytime) business, but there will be a fee to drop down from anytime to saver, should the inventory become available.
#1537
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: AY+ Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 2,846
I do appreciate the advice. It is crazy. I literally get 2 pages of flight options, many are not reasonable due to connections, etc... I can try to book with only 1 passenger or 2. I tried all of the options, even ones I would not really want to book due to other issues. Every time the same. "The flight you have chosen is no longer available". Granted many have a leg or 2 on BA, so maybe that is the issue.
#1538
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 137
Is it even worth accruing AA miles anymore?
I have a modest stash of AA miles (slightly less than 10k), and am wondering whether to continue to be somewhat loyal to AA (at least to the limited extent that I already am). Given everything I've read about abysmal saver availability for redemption on AA, the fact that it does not actually seem to be improving (see latest TPG article on it), and the fact that AA does not exactly have the best premium cabin products in the sky, is it even worth continuing to fly AA on my short domestic trips/transatlantic trips? I'm wondering if I should just top of my miles to make it 12.5k and then redeem it for a short one-way domestic, and then be done with AA forever.
#1539
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SFO
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 5,270
I'd suggest taking a look at the consolidated thread on this topic, here:
MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction / scarcity discussion
MileSAAver / SAAver award reduction / scarcity discussion
#1540
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Bangkok, Thailand. No longer Palm Coast, FL though still exiled, again, from the Bay Area.
Programs: Only the good ones
Posts: 5,153
Is it even worth accruing AA miles anymore?
Yes, of course. Maybe not for you, but if you fly at all, you might just think about what works best for you. Last year, my GF and I both made EXP and have used the SWU's for 2018 travel (already ticketed and confirmed.) Plus, she earned 150k+ and I earned 188k+. Just with the ticketed flights for 2018, We'll earn another 133k+ and that's just through August. I needed a couple business class awards for my son and his to-be wife as a wedding gift for their honeymoon, and US-Europe is pricy, especially since it's Anytime J. And, we didn't spend anything near $12k either, using premium cabin tickets on partners.
So, the answer for me is a resounding yes. YRMV.
So, the answer for me is a resounding yes. YRMV.
Last edited by rbAA; Dec 28, 2017 at 8:41 pm
#1541
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Benicia CA
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75K, AA 3.8MM, UA 1.1MM, enjoying the retired life
Posts: 31,849
If the OP only has 10,000 miles in his account, chances are he's not racking up miles like rbAA has this last year.
pennystinkard- Are you in a market served by Alaska/Virgin America? You might get a lot more miles if you accrue there. All depends where you fly, fare class and partners in play.
pennystinkard- Are you in a market served by Alaska/Virgin America? You might get a lot more miles if you accrue there. All depends where you fly, fare class and partners in play.
#1542
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,009
I have a modest stash of AA miles (slightly less than 10k), and am wondering whether to continue to be somewhat loyal to AA (at least to the limited extent that I already am).
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is it even worth continuing to fly AA on my short domestic trips/transatlantic trips?
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is it even worth continuing to fly AA on my short domestic trips/transatlantic trips?
The grass will not greener on the other side
#1543
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 44,574
I have a modest stash of AA miles (slightly less than 10k), and am wondering whether to continue to be somewhat loyal to AA (at least to the limited extent that I already am). Given everything I've read about abysmal saver availability for redemption on AA, the fact that it does not actually seem to be improving (see latest TPG article on it), and the fact that AA does not exactly have the best premium cabin products in the sky, is it even worth continuing to fly AA on my short domestic trips/transatlantic trips? I'm wondering if I should just top of my miles to make it 12.5k and then redeem it for a short one-way domestic, and then be done with AA forever.
If they are equally good schedule/price wise , then take whichever works out best for a particular trip ; if AA is the best for a trip , then might as well collect AA miles for that trip than not.
On trips where AA is the best value, then why would you choose to be done with it forever?
#1544
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: New York
Programs: AA, CX, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 1,484
I have a modest stash of AA miles (slightly less than 10k), and am wondering whether to continue to be somewhat loyal to AA (at least to the limited extent that I already am). Given everything I've read about abysmal saver availability for redemption on AA, the fact that it does not actually seem to be improving (see latest TPG article on it), and the fact that AA does not exactly have the best premium cabin products in the sky, is it even worth continuing to fly AA on my short domestic trips/transatlantic trips? I'm wondering if I should just top of my miles to make it 12.5k and then redeem it for a short one-way domestic, and then be done with AA forever.
#1545
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 137
Thanks everyone for the responses. tom911 - I'm based on the east coast, so no Alaska for me for the most part. I'm not actually an infrequent flyer, it's just that I hardly ever travel domestically (think 1 or 2 trips a year, max). Most of my travel is to Europe or Asia, and my primary FF allegiance is to Star Alliance (particularly Krisflyer), so whenever I travel abroad I try and accrue miles there. It was just that this past year I needed to travel AA/BA due to a complex routing back from Europe, and therefore had some miles accumulated there. Seems a waste to just not use it, so I was wondering what the best option moving forward is, since I intend to put all my travel for 2018 in Star Alliance (aiming for at least a couple of J redemptions to Asia by late next year). I was thinking using it on a one-way saver from JFK/LGA-ORD would be my best bet. And rbAA - great that AA works so well for you, but I guess I can't justify putting that much spend on AA when I have other preferred airlines for international travel.