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LAX Secure Connector Terminal 4 <--> Tom Bradley International Terminal
Secure airside passage between Terminal 4 and TBIT opened 25 Feb 2016; T3 access is near Gate 41.

International arrivals security is open now; after dropping baggage off at the recheck facility proceed as if you were going to the curb. Turn right as you approach the exit to signage indicating the 40s gates. The baggage recheck facility and new south terminals bus port - replacing T-4 Gate 44 - are scheduled to open in the future. See page 1 for photos and guidance..

NOTE: LAX / LAWA allows passengers with a same day boarding pass access to any terminal. See Twitter link.

One can now travel between AA Terminal 4 and Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT) via the new secure airside connector (two way airside access is here, as arriving international passengers can now clear Security after they process USCBP formalities), and to proceed airside between TBIT, the American Airlines and the legacy US Airways / Alaska terminals without leaving Security via airside.

In T-4, the access to the south terminals airside tunnel is from Gate 44, signposted "Terminal Transfer" (the current bus transfer gate). Take the escalator down to Gate 44, then turn left and take the escalator down towards baggage claim. At the bottom of the escalator make a U turn to the right and enter through the double doors. There is an elevator located to the right of the escalators (inside a little hallway) that will take you directly to the tunnels. Please consult the LAX terminals maps for the location of the tunnel in terminals 5 and 6. (TWA884)

A shuttle bus from ground level near Gate 44 at T-4 and another bus port at T-5 connect to the Remote (American Eagle) terminal, with its own Club.

A walkthrough Youtube video is available at Post #16:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26244110-post16.html

Link to John Nguyen's article on Airline Reporter (with video of T-4 to TBIT walk). "Arguably, the biggest beneficiary to the connector is American Airlines, whose T4 is immediately adjacent to TBIT, and in fact has an agreement with the airport to operate several gates out of TBIT. The connector eliminates the need for passengers on Qantas flights to take a shuttle bus, as the walk from T4 to the TBIT gates should take around 5-10 minutes at a medium pace. In fact, it was measured at just under 4 minutes from Gate 41 to the entrance of the Oneworld First Class Lounge operated by Qantas."

You can now process security at TBIT (assuming you have a mobile or printed boarding pass) and walk to T-4:

See Microwave's post #232 for photos and detailed information.

Originally Posted by Microwave
I just used it departing from Los Angeles on Sunday, so it's definitely accessible from landside for local departures. Check in online or on your mobile so you have your BP to hand when you arrive, then have your driver deposit you on the arrivals level, at the far side of TBIT near the Shuttle Express stand. Go in the sliding doors which lead to the international arrivals area and turn immediately left: voila, the secret checkpoint. Once you clear security, take the lift up to level 5 and you can go either direction to T4 or TBIT; if you head toward the latter, you will be rather conveniently deposited directly at the Qantas First lounge entrance without having to fight any crowds.
This thread is about the airside connection walkway between AA Terminal 4 and the Tom Bradley International Terminal / TBIT. For archived posts made prior to the opening, please see here.

NOTE: LAX TBIT oneworld Premium / oneworld Business lounge and oneworld Qantas First lounge and access rules here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html.

NOTE: Shuttle busses connecting Terminal 4 and TBIT are no longer offered, and would take considerably longer than the 4-5 minute walk airside.


The opening date for the airside connector was originally Friday, 4 Dec 2015, March 2016 25 February 2016.

American Airlines has preferential access to four gates at TBIT. Some domestic and international AA flights may depart from TBIT (gates 110-159). Some international AA flights can arrive at TBIT, and occasionally at the remote West 200 jetways to bus islands. Until the airside connector adds security processing for passengers arriving internationally, TBIT to Terminal 4 must be landside. TBIT is now connected airside to the south terminals 4, 6 and 8. TBIT is also connected to north, odd-numbered terminals.

Key components of the project include:
  • A new, behind-the-scene, In-Line Checked-Baggage-Inspection System facility to house new explosive- detection systems. This will enhance security and free up lobby space in T-4 to reduce passenger congestion in the ticketing lobby. (Not open until April 2016.)
    • Secure Passenger Connector between T-4 and TBIT allowing screened passengers to transition between both buildings in both directions without the need for rescreening. (Sic) Now open.
      • Additional Security Screening Checkpoints for arriving international travelers, who have cleared federal immigration and customs inspection and need to catch connecting flights at Terminals 4, 5 6, 7, and 8 on the south side of the LAX Central Terminal Area. (now open)
        • A new South Terminals Passenger Bus Port for travel between TBIT and Terminals 5 through 8.
          • Upper Level World Way Plaza with open and landscaped areas and public seating will replace the open plaza currently on the Lower/ Arrivals Level between TBIT and T-4. Part of the new facility also will be built in this area.
            • A temporary South Interline Baggage Transfer Facility to facilitate checked-bags between TBIT and Terminals 4 through 8 during construction of the new connector building.
              • "According to American, the connector will soon provide a Checked Baggage Inspection System, a five-lane Passenger Security Screening Check Point and a South Matrix Interline Baggage Transfer." - John Nguyen

LAWA news release 18 Mar 2013


Terminal 4 Connector (LAWA)

This $115 million project consists of the design and construction of a multi-use, multi-level facility providing a secure connection between Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT) to Terminal 4. Connecting the two terminals will allow passengers easier access to their destination for those needing to reach a connecting flight, with the added convenience of not having to recheck their baggage.

Fact Sheet - Terminal 4 Connector (Link to PDF) says:

This $115 million project consists of the design and construction of a multi-use, multi-level facility providing a secure connection between the Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT) and Terminal 4. The Terminal 4 Connector will make it easier for passengers to make connecting flights out of different terminals. The new CAL Green Certified space will include a Checked Baggage Inspection System (CBIS), South Matrix Interline Baggage Transfer facility and a five lane Passenger Security Screening Check Point (SSCP). A Passenger Bus Port is also being added for travelers transferring between Terminals 5 through 8 and a Public Plaza will be built for outdoor seating on the upper level.
Link to architectural renderings

LAWA Web Cam Views of the connector: EarthCam Construction Camera - LAX -Los Angeles World Airports

For LAX connections, see: AA Guide to LAX / Los Angeles International Airport, MCT (in use - under construction

See Post #131 for renderings and timetable.


Q. Where do I check in for an AA or Qantas flight?

You can check in at AA Terminal 4 for AA - and there is NO LONGER a Qantas counter in Terminal 4 - you must check I at the Qantas counters in Tom Bradley International Terminal / TBIT.

If checking in with AA but departing from TBIT, you can clear security in Terminal 4 and take the secure airside connector to the Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT).

If departing on Legacy US or American Eagle flights, those departing from the 60s gates including 60A-J, you will find it more convenient to check in at Terminal 6.

(For other airlines you may be connecting to, if you haven't been checked in previously you must check in at the TBIT (e.g. Air Fiji, Air Nui, airberlin, British Airways, Cathay Pacific, Iberia, etc.) or other terminal (e.g. Qatar departs Terminal 2).

Access rules: (v. Feb 25, 2016) See here.

Qantas - oneworld First Lounge

Must be Emerald or First class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
  • Departing on a longhaul international flight, or
    • Departing on a one world flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or
      • Departing in First on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T.


one world Business Lounge operated by Qantas (not a QANTAS Club)

Must be Sapphire or Business class passenger on a oneworld marketed and operated carrier ("qualifying flight") and
  • Departing on a longhaul international flight, or
    • Departing on a one world flight, having arrived on a qualifying longhaul international flight, or
      • Departing in First or Business on AA to JFK on a 3 cabin A321T.


Updated 19 Aug 2016 by JDiver

updated Oct 4 2016 by QueenOfCoach to include information about the elevator (lift) taking the passenger to and from the T4 concourse level to the tunnel level
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Old Feb 29, 2016, 9:10 am
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I've never seen PreCheck of any variety, lite or otherwise, at TBIT. Certainly never a separate line--and I ask every time. That alone would be a huge improvement.

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Yep. I've experienced that when the actual PreCheck queue is closed. I show my Global Entry card, they tell the screener and I don't have to remove shoes etc.
This should not be happening unless "TSA Pre" is printed on your BP. If that is printed on your boarding pass, they should give you the PreCheck Lite treatment where available. The Global Entry card is not supposed to be your ticket into either PreCheck or PreCheck Lite. Then again, who ever knows with the TSA.
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Originally Posted by mgcsinc
I've never seen PreCheck of any variety, lite or otherwise, at TBIT. Certainly never a separate line--and I ask every time. That alone would be a huge improvement.



This should not be happening unless "TSA Pre" is printed on your BP. If that is printed on your boarding pass, they should give you the PreCheck Lite treatment where available. The Global Entry card is not supposed to be your ticket into either PreCheck or PreCheck Lite. Then again, who ever knows with the TSA.
My boarding pass normally does have the PreCheck bug, unless I'm traveling overseas - but sometimes PreCheck is closed.

TBIT isn't likely to get PreCheck, but the connector will have five lanes of TSA by late April, as well as baggage inspection facilities and the new south terminals bus port, and those will all be handy (and I'm guessing one of those lanes will have PreCeck).
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Old Feb 29, 2016, 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver

TBIT isn't likely to get PreCheck
I agree.

Only USA and certain canadian airlines participate in the Pre check program.

None of the airlines with check-in counters at TBIT are part of the Pre check program. So it would not make any sense to have precheck lines at TBIT.
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Old Feb 29, 2016, 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver

TBIT isn't likely to get PreCheck....
Originally Posted by carlosdca
I agree.

Only USA and certain canadian airlines participate in the Pre check program.

None of the airlines with check-in counters at TBIT are part of the Pre check program. So it would not make any sense to have precheck lines at TBIT.
So, presumably, the Pre-Check lines that were there in early February either already have, or will be going away?

Cheers.
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Old Feb 29, 2016, 4:18 pm
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So, presumably, the Pre-Check lines that were there in early February either already have, or will be going away?

Cheers.

I don't know.

On another note, I just flew Qatar from T2 at LAX in business.
There are pre-check lines there.
I do have GE and OW status (DYKIA?!!) and of course my Qatar boarding pass did not have precheck (there is not even a KTN field when you book or check-in) and I was not allowed to the Pre-check lane.
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Old Feb 29, 2016, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by carlosdca
I don't know.

On another note, I just flew Qatar from T2 at LAX in business.
There are pre-check lines there.
I do have GE and OW status (DYKIA?!!) and of course my Qatar boarding pass did not have precheck (there is not even a KTN field when you book or check-in) and I was not allowed to the Pre-check lane.
The airlines themselves have to agree to participate in PreCheck, which QR does not. However, T2 residents AC, HA, SY, and WS do, hence the Precheck line.
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Old Feb 29, 2016, 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by carlosdca
I don't know.

On another note, I just flew Qatar from T2 at LAX in business.
There are pre-check lines there.
I do have GE and OW status (DYKIA?!!) and of course my Qatar boarding pass did not have precheck (there is not even a KTN field when you book or check-in) and I was not allowed to the Pre-check lane.
Currently only 9 (I think) us based airlines and two Canadian airlines participate in PreCheck.
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Old Feb 29, 2016, 8:03 pm
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Originally Posted by brp
So, presumably, the Pre-Check lines that were there in early February either already have, or will be going away?
What PreCheck line in early February? I flew Feb 5 out of TBIT on an AA flight to MCO at gate 154, and there was no PreCheck line, in the way people typically mean the term "PreCheck line" (ie, a separate line to queue up for the person scanning your boarding pass and/or a separate bag conveyor belt just for PreCheck). There was only a separate division of the line after the conveyor belt where PreCheck people got to go through the metal detector while others had to go through the scanner. PreCheck people were given a pass to hold and present at the end of the conveyor to direct them to the correct division of the line.
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
What PreCheck line in early February? I flew Feb 5 out of TBIT on an AA flight to MCO at gate 154, and there was no PreCheck line, in the way people typically mean the term "PreCheck line" (ie, a separate line to queue up for the person scanning your boarding pass and/or a separate bag conveyor belt just for PreCheck). There was only a separate division of the line after the conveyor belt where PreCheck people got to go through the metal detector while others had to go through the scanner. PreCheck people were given a pass to hold and present at the end of the conveyor to direct them to the correct division of the line.
Read the conversation in this thread, particularly brp's comments.
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Old Feb 29, 2016, 9:50 pm
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Originally Posted by VickiSoCal
Currently only 9 (I think) us based airlines and two Canadian airlines participate in PreCheck.
I know!!! And that was exactly my point.

Having Pre-check lanes at TBIT accessible to the general public coming from the check-in desks makes no sense to me because all the airlines with deks at TBIT are international non-Precheck.

I understand that there could be Pre-check lanes for those pax coming from an international itinerary transferring to T4 (but those would be accessible only to PAX arriving at TBIT ).

I don't understand BRP's story (or anybody's for that matter). If on an flight on an international airline (LAN, Qantas, CX, etc), then the boarding pass CAN'T have the Pre-check stamp.
And then this new "LIGHT PRECHECK" is something that doesn't exist officially, as far as I know. Otherwise, please direct me to the TSA webpage that explains this process.

And if "light precheck" exist, please tell what I need to do, so I can benefit from it when departing from T2 on Qatar, since it'd be odd that it is something exclusive to a particular terminal (TBIT).
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Old Feb 29, 2016, 10:37 pm
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Light precheck exists officially in a lot of places. Kona for one that I am sure of.

As it existing at TBIT, well, it would seem to only apply to AA boarding passes out of TBIT.
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Originally Posted by carlosdca
And if "light precheck" exist, please tell what I need to do, so I can benefit from it when departing from T2 on Qatar, since it'd be odd that it is something exclusive to a particular terminal (TBIT).
It exists officially, and it is available at many airports when there is no PreCheck line present or when the PreCheck line is closed. At many airports, TSA has special cards they give out that you carry through the checkpoint with you to show that you are entitled to it. But it is derived from the PreCheck symbol on your boarding pass, not from anything else (global entry card, etc.). You won't get it if your BP was issued by a non-participating airline.
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Old Mar 1, 2016, 1:47 am
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Can someone please explain how to get between T4 and T8 while staying within security?
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Go to Gate 44 and go down the escalators. There will be clear signage.
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