Jan 14, 2015, 5:58 pm
Last edit by: Prospero
AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF)
The basics:
QF releases their awards from 353 days out to QF FF's and some ffp's (Amadeus CRS). So at the 331 days (~Sabre CRS) AA for award release there are scant seats left. They tend to add more much closer to the day of flight, if there are seats available.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: For US flights it has been my recent, but limited experience that QF releases award availability around 10-11 months from departure. Consider searching for one seat in F and one in J as well.
Consider alternate cities. E.g. Flights to BNE might be easier to book with AA miles than SYD or MEL, so adding a segment from BNE might give you a trip denied by connecting in SYD. You might have to remind AA reservationists, because they might not consider BNE.
Consider alternate airlines, such as HA from HNL, TN via PPT, FJ via NAN, etc.
N.B. Travel via Honolulu, or Asia (e.g. HKG or NRT), will require two awards.
aa.com occasionally may report "phantom availability" of premium awards on Qantas.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: Conversely, aa.com occasionally may not show available Qantas awards. Use BA's search tool, QF's search tool, or service like ExpertFlyer to see availability. Call in to ticket.
The aa.com oneworld and Other Airline Award Chart may be seen here, for required miles and restrictions on connections.
Note: Reservation speculating, or tying up award space to "flip" in (or out of) Coupon Connection will not be tolerated. If you have an "extra" reservation, simply cancel or refund it. This will not be allowed in this forum either.
Qantas Routes
To be updated
SYD to LAX, DFW, HNL and YVR. SYD SFO restart delayed
BNE to LAX
MEL to LAX and DFW
SYD AKL JFK from 14 June 2023
Notes
Routes can change, so please check the schedule.
During low seasons some routes may not have flights every day.
Not all flights/routes have first class. Only the QF A380 aircraft have has first class.
QF have retired all B747's and sent them to the Mojave desert (July 2020)
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Older posts have been archived to ARCHIVE: AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF)
Note: Older posts have been archived off to this thread
Updates & edits
20 May 2016 - JDiver
23 Sept 2019 - Mwenenzi QF routes added
11 Mar 2020 - Mwenenzi QF route changes
31 Jul 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B747 retired. More Covid-19 announcements from QF
07 Aug 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B787 to storage
12 Nov 2021 - Mwenenzi QF announcements 3 off
05 Mar 2022 - Mwenenzi QF announcements
12 Jun 2022 - Mwenenzi QF announcements removed (except 2) as AU fully open & QF flying AU<--->USA
24 Dec 2022 - Mwenenzi QF post CV19 announcements removed. MELDFW route added
THIS WIKI IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD VALUE.
The basics:
QF releases their awards from 353 days out to QF FF's and some ffp's (Amadeus CRS). So at the 331 days (~Sabre CRS) AA for award release there are scant seats left. They tend to add more much closer to the day of flight, if there are seats available.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: For US flights it has been my recent, but limited experience that QF releases award availability around 10-11 months from departure. Consider searching for one seat in F and one in J as well.
Consider alternate cities. E.g. Flights to BNE might be easier to book with AA miles than SYD or MEL, so adding a segment from BNE might give you a trip denied by connecting in SYD. You might have to remind AA reservationists, because they might not consider BNE.
Consider alternate airlines, such as HA from HNL, TN via PPT, FJ via NAN, etc.
N.B. Travel via Honolulu, or Asia (e.g. HKG or NRT), will require two awards.
aa.com occasionally may report "phantom availability" of premium awards on Qantas.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: Conversely, aa.com occasionally may not show available Qantas awards. Use BA's search tool, QF's search tool, or service like ExpertFlyer to see availability. Call in to ticket.
BA only shows 3 cabins in output. When searching for award seats, make sure to select 1st class as cabin and it will show premium economy, business and 1st rather than economy, premium economy and business
It only displays flights where there is a seat in at least one cabin. If there is no availability on the flight in any cabin, then the flight will not be displayed.
It only displays flights where there is a seat in at least one cabin. If there is no availability on the flight in any cabin, then the flight will not be displayed.
Note: Reservation speculating, or tying up award space to "flip" in (or out of) Coupon Connection will not be tolerated. If you have an "extra" reservation, simply cancel or refund it. This will not be allowed in this forum either.
Qantas Routes
To be updated
SYD to LAX, DFW, HNL and YVR. SYD SFO restart delayed
BNE to LAX
MEL to LAX and DFW
SYD AKL JFK from 14 June 2023
Notes
Routes can change, so please check the schedule.
During low seasons some routes may not have flights every day.
Not all flights/routes have first class. Only the QF A380 aircraft have has first class.
QF have retired all B747's and sent them to the Mojave desert (July 2020)
+++++++++++++++++
/Moderator
Older posts have been archived to ARCHIVE: AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF)
Note: Older posts have been archived off to this thread
Updates & edits
20 May 2016 - JDiver
23 Sept 2019 - Mwenenzi QF routes added
11 Mar 2020 - Mwenenzi QF route changes
31 Jul 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B747 retired. More Covid-19 announcements from QF
07 Aug 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B787 to storage
12 Nov 2021 - Mwenenzi QF announcements 3 off
05 Mar 2022 - Mwenenzi QF announcements
12 Jun 2022 - Mwenenzi QF announcements removed (except 2) as AU fully open & QF flying AU<--->USA
24 Dec 2022 - Mwenenzi QF post CV19 announcements removed. MELDFW route added
THIS WIKI IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD VALUE.
AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF) & related (consolidated)
Apr 11, 2023, 8:40 am
#1096
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 102
Things have worsened since my positive experience in Feb where I was able to see the QF availability on the BA site and then call AA to book it. Now even that does not seem to be
possible. The saver award in business shows on the Qantas site (I checked QF7 on Nov 28, 2 PAX) but now none of the partners can see it. I called BA, AA and Alaska and no luck.
Is Qantas not making any of these saver seats available any more?
possible. The saver award in business shows on the Qantas site (I checked QF7 on Nov 28, 2 PAX) but now none of the partners can see it. I called BA, AA and Alaska and no luck.
Is Qantas not making any of these saver seats available any more?
Apr 11, 2023, 1:38 pm
#1097
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 20,993
Things have worsened since my positive experience in Feb where I was able to see the QF availability on the BA site and then call AA to book it. Now even that does not seem to be possible. The saver award in business shows on the Qantas site (I checked QF7 on Nov 28, 2 PAX) but now none of the partners can see it. I called BA, AA and Alaska and no luck.
Is Qantas not making any of these saver seats available any more?
Is Qantas not making any of these saver seats available any more?
QF and some other ffp's have awards from 353 days out. AA & AS are 330 days out (SABRE software limitation),
QF had large release of awards in Feb 2023 --> Tens of thousands of new international reward seats to be released Friday 24 Feb Have read will be other large release some time.
AA freq flyers can use AA, FJ & HA for awards USA<--->AU
Apr 11, 2023, 5:27 pm
#1098
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 102
I understand all that. In Feb I was able to book these seats by calling AA (QF website showed availability, AA.com did not but the agents could see them).
Now I see plenty of availability on the QF site but none of the partners show any availability ( I have tried AS, BA, AA online and by calling).
Now I see plenty of availability on the QF site but none of the partners show any availability ( I have tried AS, BA, AA online and by calling).
Apr 11, 2023, 6:26 pm
#1099
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
I understand all that. In Feb I was able to book these seats by calling AA (QF website showed availability, AA.com did not but the agents could see them).
Now I see plenty of availability on the QF site but none of the partners show any availability ( I have tried AS, BA, AA online and by calling).
Now I see plenty of availability on the QF site but none of the partners show any availability ( I have tried AS, BA, AA online and by calling).
Apr 18, 2023, 10:15 am
#1101
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 102
I found availability in J for QF7 on Aug 26th (SYD-DFW). Availability (1 seat in J and 2 seats in Premium Economy) shows on the BA site and on the QF site, but not on AA or AS. Called AA and they
were able to see the availability and book. There are many other dates when this flight is available for QF members but the BA site does not show it.
Conclusions:
were able to see the availability and book. There are many other dates when this flight is available for QF members but the BA site does not show it.
Conclusions:
- Qantas is not releasing seats in the premium cabins to OW partners. The most recent (Feb 23) release seems to stay locked in for Qantas members
- What limited availability exists still shows accurately on BA
- AA and AS websites still do not show even this limited availability but AA agents seem to be able to see/book if BA shows it
Apr 18, 2023, 2:50 pm
#1105
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: DCA/IAD & BUF
Posts: 1,380
I found availability in J for QF7 on Aug 26th (SYD-DFW). Availability (1 seat in J and 2 seats in Premium Economy) shows on the BA site and on the QF site, but not on AA or AS. Called AA and they
were able to see the availability and book. There are many other dates when this flight is available for QF members but the BA site does not show it.
Conclusions:
were able to see the availability and book. There are many other dates when this flight is available for QF members but the BA site does not show it.
Conclusions:
- Qantas is not releasing seats in the premium cabins to OW partners. The most recent (Feb 23) release seems to stay locked in for Qantas members
- What limited availability exists still shows accurately on BA
- AA and AS websites still do not show even this limited availability but AA agents seem to be able to see/book if BA shows it
Not sure yet I can make the timing work or get a return flight. But couldn't let that unicorn go by. I check often and this is first one I've seen in maybe 10 months.
But - here's something I realized yesterday - Now that AA is under cutting the partner awards with lower web specials, the partner non-stop flights aren't listed first, as we're used to seeing in most markets. You have to scroll down further for them, past AA listings. This one just happened to stand out on the calender because it was 110K and lowest of the month. With AA running lower web specials now, there could have been more out there before, & I just missed them in calendar view, as now they're 'buried'.
Apr 18, 2023, 3:43 pm
#1107
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: DCA/IAD & BUF
Posts: 1,380
LAX-SYD is my outbound. Haven't found anything back yet. But it was pretty late last night, maybe even wee hours of the morning, when I grabbed it. I've only had a chance to look briefly a couple of times since.
(Today being tax day so I was kind of occupied with other stuff I put off lol. But it'll get more attention now.)
Apr 22, 2023, 7:08 pm
#1108
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: DCA/IAD & BUF
Posts: 1,380
Yeah - I must admit I was pretty surprised.
LAX-SYD is my outbound. Haven't found anything back yet. But it was pretty late last night, maybe even wee hours of the morning, when I grabbed it. I've only had a chance to look briefly a couple of times since.
(Today being tax day so I was kind of occupied with other stuff I put off lol. But it'll get more attention now.)
LAX-SYD is my outbound. Haven't found anything back yet. But it was pretty late last night, maybe even wee hours of the morning, when I grabbed it. I've only had a chance to look briefly a couple of times since.
(Today being tax day so I was kind of occupied with other stuff I put off lol. But it'll get more attention now.)
Will probably kick myself for it later. But wasn't able to get the itinerary or return flight worked and last day of the hold. However gets it: enjoy!
Last edited by cmtlatitudes; Apr 22, 2023 at 7:13 pm Reason: Added update
