Jan 14, 2015, 5:58 pm
Last edit by: Prospero
AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF)
The basics:
QF releases their awards from 353 days out to QF FF's and some ffp's (Amadeus CRS). So at the 331 days (~Sabre CRS) AA for award release there are scant seats left. They tend to add more much closer to the day of flight, if there are seats available.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: For US flights it has been my recent, but limited experience that QF releases award availability around 10-11 months from departure. Consider searching for one seat in F and one in J as well.
Consider alternate cities. E.g. Flights to BNE might be easier to book with AA miles than SYD or MEL, so adding a segment from BNE might give you a trip denied by connecting in SYD. You might have to remind AA reservationists, because they might not consider BNE.
Consider alternate airlines, such as HA from HNL, TN via PPT, FJ via NAN, etc.
N.B. Travel via Honolulu, or Asia (e.g. HKG or NRT), will require two awards.
aa.com occasionally may report "phantom availability" of premium awards on Qantas.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: Conversely, aa.com occasionally may not show available Qantas awards. Use BA's search tool, QF's search tool, or service like ExpertFlyer to see availability. Call in to ticket.
The aa.com oneworld and Other Airline Award Chart may be seen here, for required miles and restrictions on connections.
Note: Reservation speculating, or tying up award space to "flip" in (or out of) Coupon Connection will not be tolerated. If you have an "extra" reservation, simply cancel or refund it. This will not be allowed in this forum either.
Qantas Routes
To be updated
SYD to LAX, DFW, HNL and YVR. SYD SFO restart delayed
BNE to LAX
MEL to LAX and DFW
SYD AKL JFK from 14 June 2023
Notes
Routes can change, so please check the schedule.
During low seasons some routes may not have flights every day.
Not all flights/routes have first class. Only the QF A380 aircraft have has first class.
QF have retired all B747's and sent them to the Mojave desert (July 2020)
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Older posts have been archived to ARCHIVE: AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF)
Note: Older posts have been archived off to this thread
Updates & edits
20 May 2016 - JDiver
23 Sept 2019 - Mwenenzi QF routes added
11 Mar 2020 - Mwenenzi QF route changes
31 Jul 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B747 retired. More Covid-19 announcements from QF
07 Aug 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B787 to storage
12 Nov 2021 - Mwenenzi QF announcements 3 off
05 Mar 2022 - Mwenenzi QF announcements
12 Jun 2022 - Mwenenzi QF announcements removed (except 2) as AU fully open & QF flying AU<--->USA
24 Dec 2022 - Mwenenzi QF post CV19 announcements removed. MELDFW route added
THIS WIKI IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD VALUE.
The basics:
QF releases their awards from 353 days out to QF FF's and some ffp's (Amadeus CRS). So at the 331 days (~Sabre CRS) AA for award release there are scant seats left. They tend to add more much closer to the day of flight, if there are seats available.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: For US flights it has been my recent, but limited experience that QF releases award availability around 10-11 months from departure. Consider searching for one seat in F and one in J as well.
Consider alternate cities. E.g. Flights to BNE might be easier to book with AA miles than SYD or MEL, so adding a segment from BNE might give you a trip denied by connecting in SYD. You might have to remind AA reservationists, because they might not consider BNE.
Consider alternate airlines, such as HA from HNL, TN via PPT, FJ via NAN, etc.
N.B. Travel via Honolulu, or Asia (e.g. HKG or NRT), will require two awards.
aa.com occasionally may report "phantom availability" of premium awards on Qantas.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: Conversely, aa.com occasionally may not show available Qantas awards. Use BA's search tool, QF's search tool, or service like ExpertFlyer to see availability. Call in to ticket.
BA only shows 3 cabins in output. When searching for award seats, make sure to select 1st class as cabin and it will show premium economy, business and 1st rather than economy, premium economy and business
It only displays flights where there is a seat in at least one cabin. If there is no availability on the flight in any cabin, then the flight will not be displayed.
It only displays flights where there is a seat in at least one cabin. If there is no availability on the flight in any cabin, then the flight will not be displayed.
Note: Reservation speculating, or tying up award space to "flip" in (or out of) Coupon Connection will not be tolerated. If you have an "extra" reservation, simply cancel or refund it. This will not be allowed in this forum either.
Qantas Routes
To be updated
SYD to LAX, DFW, HNL and YVR. SYD SFO restart delayed
BNE to LAX
MEL to LAX and DFW
SYD AKL JFK from 14 June 2023
Notes
Routes can change, so please check the schedule.
During low seasons some routes may not have flights every day.
Not all flights/routes have first class. Only the QF A380 aircraft have has first class.
QF have retired all B747's and sent them to the Mojave desert (July 2020)
+++++++++++++++++
/Moderator
Older posts have been archived to ARCHIVE: AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF)
Note: Older posts have been archived off to this thread
Updates & edits
20 May 2016 - JDiver
23 Sept 2019 - Mwenenzi QF routes added
11 Mar 2020 - Mwenenzi QF route changes
31 Jul 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B747 retired. More Covid-19 announcements from QF
07 Aug 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B787 to storage
12 Nov 2021 - Mwenenzi QF announcements 3 off
05 Mar 2022 - Mwenenzi QF announcements
12 Jun 2022 - Mwenenzi QF announcements removed (except 2) as AU fully open & QF flying AU<--->USA
24 Dec 2022 - Mwenenzi QF post CV19 announcements removed. MELDFW route added
THIS WIKI IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD VALUE.
AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF) & related (consolidated)
Feb 20, 2016, 11:47 am
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Feb 21, 2016, 5:58 pm
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Feb 21, 2016, 6:13 pm
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But, yes, obviously the poster looking to do MEL-DXB-LHR-FCO can do so on one award, hopefully all can see now.
Feb 23, 2016, 12:30 pm
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Just wanted to say - thank you to TheBOSman, Dave Noble, and ExecPlat for y'all's replies a few pages ago. Wife and I decided to spend a day in Sydney, thus avoiding the hassle/stress of the same day connection to AYQ. Appreciate y'all's insight though it was quite helpful!
Looking forward to our first visit to Australia!
Also - I've set EF alerts - but does anyone have any experience if QF releases F awards last minute CX-style? We snagged J awards for our return home but sure wouldn't mind F if it opens up! Flight is F9 and only 3/14 seats taken on the map (which I know doesn't mean squat) - but suggests we have a Lloyd Christmas chance!
Looking forward to our first visit to Australia!
Also - I've set EF alerts - but does anyone have any experience if QF releases F awards last minute CX-style? We snagged J awards for our return home but sure wouldn't mind F if it opens up! Flight is F9 and only 3/14 seats taken on the map (which I know doesn't mean squat) - but suggests we have a Lloyd Christmas chance!
Last edited by no1cub17; Feb 23, 2016 at 12:44 pm
Feb 23, 2016, 12:38 pm
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One day is enough to get a quick overview of Sydney and to hit up the major obvious touristy things (Opera House, Harbour Bridge, Bondi Beach). If you're spending time there later on, use that first day to get a feel for what might interest you in the future.
Feb 23, 2016, 12:48 pm
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By all means set your EF alerts. It also pays to be flexible with date. It's often 1 seat that is made available though, if then.
Where do the F seats go? Qantas either sells them (perhaps unlikely), but they have their own Upgrade bidding options- http://www.qantas.com/travel/airlines/upgrade/global/en
https://www.qantas.com/fflyer/dyn/fl...qantas-jetstar
I've flown QF F twice in the last month. Both flights went out with only 1 or 2 open F seats. Most of the other seats were filled in the upgrade window that QF publishes.
Where do the F seats go? Qantas either sells them (perhaps unlikely), but they have their own Upgrade bidding options- http://www.qantas.com/travel/airlines/upgrade/global/en
https://www.qantas.com/fflyer/dyn/fl...qantas-jetstar
I've flown QF F twice in the last month. Both flights went out with only 1 or 2 open F seats. Most of the other seats were filled in the upgrade window that QF publishes.
Last edited by bmchris; Feb 23, 2016 at 1:01 pm
Feb 23, 2016, 12:52 pm
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Well damn! Alright then, let's see. Never in a zillion years did I think we'd snag even two J awards on QF though so who knows.
Good thought re: AA - unfortunately AA72 the day we return is already down to F1 (!!!) and our dates aren't flexible, but I'll set alerts for that one too - why not!
Good thought re: AA - unfortunately AA72 the day we return is already down to F1 (!!!) and our dates aren't flexible, but I'll set alerts for that one too - why not!
Feb 26, 2016, 7:40 pm
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LAX-SYD first class trying to redeem
On AA's website, a couple of first class tix LAX-SYD have popped up in the past week. I tried to book but then it says they aren't available. Called the 800 and they don't see them. Week later, they still show online. Anyone experience this before or know how to book? Thanks in advance.
Feb 26, 2016, 8:24 pm
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wolterjwb Welcome to FT
Some very long threads, with wikis, including this topic (where this thread will get moved to)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...solidated.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...solidated.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html
Feb 29, 2016, 8:53 am
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I've had this happen frequently lately with QF availability on AA.com.
Better to call AA or to use Expertflyer.com- that will show the real availability.
Better to call AA or to use Expertflyer.com- that will show the real availability.
Mar 1, 2016, 7:51 pm
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I received an automated ticket confirmation email from AA with "Ticket Issued: Mar 1, 2016" for a QF booking I originally made last year for travel next month.
The PNRs (both AA and QF), flight number and seat are all unchanged. Any idea why AA would have issued a new ticket?
The PNRs (both AA and QF), flight number and seat are all unchanged. Any idea why AA would have issued a new ticket?
Mar 1, 2016, 8:46 pm
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I received an automated ticket confirmation email from AA with "Ticket Issued: Mar 1, 2016" for a QF booking I originally made last year for travel next month.
The PNRs (both AA and QF), flight number and seat are all unchanged. Any idea why AA would have issued a new ticket?
The PNRs (both AA and QF), flight number and seat are all unchanged. Any idea why AA would have issued a new ticket?
Mar 1, 2016, 8:52 pm
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I received an automated ticket confirmation email from AA with "Ticket Issued: Mar 1, 2016" for a QF booking I originally made last year for travel next month.
The PNRs (both AA and QF), flight number and seat are all unchanged. Any idea why AA would have issued a new ticket?
The PNRs (both AA and QF), flight number and seat are all unchanged. Any idea why AA would have issued a new ticket?