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AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF) & related (consolidated)

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AA miles awards: using / redeeming AA miles on Qantas (QF)

QF Updates
This information may not be accurate or up to date.
The basics:
QF releases their awards 355 days out to QF FFs, so at the 331 days AA uses for award release there are scant seats left. They tend to add more much closer to the day of flight, if there are seats available.
2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: For US flights it has been my recent, but limited experience that QF releases award availability around 10-11 months from departure. Consider searching for one seat in F and one in J as well.

Consider alternate cities. E.g. Flights to BNE might be easier to book with AA miles than SYD or MEL, so adding a segment from BNE might give you a trip denied by connecting in SYD. You might have to remind AA reservationists, because they might not consider BNE.

Consider alternate airlines, such as HA from HNL, TN via PPT, FJ via NAN, etc.

N.B. Travel via Honolulu, or Asia (e.g. HKG or NRT), will require two awards.

aa.com occasionally may report "phantom availability" of premium awards on Qantas. 2017.07.08 edit by FlyerTalkUserName: Conversely, aa.com occasionally may not show available Qantas awards. Use BA's search tool, QF's search tool, or service like ExpertFlyer to see availability. Call in to ticket.


Originally Posted by Dave Noble View Post
BA only shows 3 cabins in output. When searching for award seats, make sure to select 1st class as cabin and it will show premium economy, business and 1st rather than economy, premium economy and business

It only displays flights where there is a seat in at least one cabin. If there is no availability on the flight in any cabin, then the flight will not be displayed.
The aa.com oneworld and Other Airline Award Chart may be seen here, for required miles and restrictions on connections.

Note: Reservation speculating, or tying up award space to "flip" in (or out of) Coupon Connection will not be tolerated. If you have an "extra" reservation, simply cancel or refund it.[/QUOTE] This will not be allowed in this forum either.



Qantas Routes
10 March 2020 QF news release--->https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...irus-response/
SYD to LAX, SFO, JFK(via LAX), DFW, HNL and YVR*
BNE to LAX, SFO** and ORD**
MEL to LAX and SFO
* Seasonable
**BNE ORD from 20 April 2020 Suspended
**BNE SFO from 5 February 2020 Suspended

Notes
Routes can change, so please check the schedule.
During low seasons some routes may not have flights every day.
Not all flights/routes have first class. Only the QF A380 has first class. A380's are parked until mid 2023.
QF have retired all B747 and sent to the Mojave desert (July 2020)SYD SFO and SYD HNL have the B747, but they will be withdrawn from those routes by the end of 2019. SYD YVR also has the B747. All of the 7 remaining QF B747s are due to be retired by mid 2020.


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Updates & edits
20 May 2016 - JDiver
23 Sept 2019 - Mwenenzi QF routes added
11 Mar 2020 - Mwenenzi QF route changes
31 Jul 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B747 retired. More Covid-19 announcements from QF
07 Aug 2020 - Mwenenzi QF B787 to storage

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Old Jan 29, 16, 5:00 am
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Originally Posted by klymen View Post
AA shows Qantas availability through the award search on aa.com. Usually this matches the award availability on the qantas website.
That hasn't been my experience actually. I have found numerous instances where Qantas' site shows availability but AA.com doesn't pick it up. In those instances, I've called AA to verify it and the agent can see it - but it definitely doesn't show on the website.
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Old Jan 29, 16, 5:50 am
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Originally Posted by Maxima81 View Post
That hasn't been my experience actually. I have found numerous instances where Qantas' site shows availability but AA.com doesn't pick it up. In those instances, I've called AA to verify it and the agent can see it - but it definitely doesn't show on the website.
I reported on this phenomenon about a month ago as well and no one seemed particularly concerned. You can tell that this is happening because there is way more QF F inventory showing available on EF than anyone in this forum would have you believe is even possible.
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Old Jan 29, 16, 7:41 am
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Originally Posted by iadisgreat View Post
I reported on this phenomenon about a month ago as well and no one seemed particularly concerned. You can tell that this is happening because there is way more QF F inventory showing available on EF than anyone in this forum would have you believe is even possible.
I'm with you. I just posted that this continues to be an issue and pretty much no one responded lol. Just snagged two SYD-DFW J awards that did not appear on aa.com.
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Old Jan 29, 16, 10:13 am
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Qantas Award Availability

Yeah, I have seen the same thing lately. Snagged SFO-SYD in business on christmas day this morning by calling in. Had to call a few phone reps before one would admit that there was a known issue and waive the booking fee. She said that there was a problem with Qantas in their "references" that was supposed to be resolved by the 20th but obviously hasn't been. The twitter account was absolutely no help yet again.
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Old Jan 29, 16, 11:40 am
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Hmm, I saw one in April on qantas but not on aa.com. AA did have availability but on their planes, not the QF direct for SFO-SYD.

Thought about asking the AA agent to find it but decided actually that November would be better. So AA has availability then while Qantas only shows saver awards routing through Hong Kong in November.

I would have liked to have taken QF but I've heard that AA business is better than QF business, while QF F is better than AA F.

Wanted to use my miles before the new award chart takes effect so I went for the SJC-LAX-SYD and MEL-SYD-LAX-SJC award in November. I'm hoping to get in the new lounge at LAX?

And AA business class doesn't get access to QF lounges in SYD?
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Old Jan 29, 16, 12:13 pm
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And AA business class doesn't get access to QF lounges in SYD?
All OW business class passengers get access to QF lounges (eg. AA, JL, LA)
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Old Jan 29, 16, 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by pschafer View Post
All OW business class passengers get access to QF lounges (eg. AA, JL, LA)
Hmm, okay but Gary Leff was going on about how the QF lounge in SYD is the best in the world.

Is he talking about the one for first class only, as in QF has separate lounges for business class and first class?
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Old Jan 29, 16, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post
Hmm, okay but Gary Leff was going on about how the QF lounge in SYD is the best in the world.
Is he talking about the one for first class only, as in QF has separate lounges for business class and first class?
Yes, he was referring to the QF First Class Lounge in SYD, which indeed very nice.
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Old Jan 29, 16, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post
Is he talking about the one for first class only, as in QF has separate lounges for business class and first class?
QF has separate lounges at SYD and MEL (and other airports but we can focus on those for now, the others aren't so significant in their differences) in the respective international terminals for business class and first class. I've not had occasion to use the business class lounge internationally with QF, but from what I've seen, it certainly isn't bad, in fact is quite good. But the first lounges at SYD and MEL are a clear level above and are world-class. And, all internationally departing OW first class passengers (AA, JL, in addition to QF) have access to the international terminal QF first class lounge at SYD or MEL (depending on specific departure point). However, a non-OWE internationally departing business class passenger would not have access to the first class lounge, "only" to the business class lounge.

With no apologies to deal killing blogger, I personally know more about QF, flying QF, booking QF awards, enjoying QF lounges, and using AA miles to Australia and New Zealand than he does. The collective knowledge here on top of that completely outdoes him in every way and it isn't even close.
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Old Jan 29, 16, 1:48 pm
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Ah well last night, there was a first class award returning from MEL for the date I wanted but this morning it was gone. So I went with business, a little earlier in November.

So I'll just have to make do with business class lounge, though it's an early flight so probably not too much time for it.
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Old Jan 29, 16, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post
Ah well last night, there was a first class award returning from MEL for the date I wanted but this morning it was gone. So I went with business, a little earlier in November.

So I'll just have to make do with business class lounge, though it's an early flight so probably not too much time for it.
Keep an eye out, you might get lucky and it will reappear .
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Old Jan 29, 16, 1:59 pm
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Yeah but I'm locked into business awards both ways. I found out I can't change dates without a fee unless it's the same level of awards and the destinations are the same.

So I paid $150 because November is better for me (and weatherize) than April and I couldn't find the exact pattern of first class outbound and business class return.
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Old Jan 29, 16, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post
Yeah but I'm locked into business awards both ways. I found out I can't change dates without a fee unless it's the same level of awards and the destinations are the same.

So I paid $150 because November is better for me (and weatherize) than April and I couldn't find the exact pattern of first class outbound and business class return.
AA will often allow an upgrade from a business saver to a first saver for free. Of course, origin and destination must remain the same.

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Old Jan 29, 16, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post
I've heard that AA business is better than QF business
I find this hard to believe, to say the least.
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Old Jan 29, 16, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by no1cub17 View Post
I find this hard to believe, to say the least.
AA 77W business (used LAX-SYD-LAX) is 1-2-1 seating, all seats have aisle access, and AA's plane has Wifi. QF's A380 is 2-2-2, and QF's 747 is mostly either 2-2 or 2-3-2, so not all seats have aisle access, and no Wifi. Those are two major checkmarks for AA. Since QF has forced AA to up the catering standards on the AA LAX-SYD-LAX flight, it approaches (and might be equal to) QF's standards. Average QF crew is probably better than an average AA crew, but otherwise AA looks better at the moment.
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