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Lounge Access for oneworld First or Business Class Passengers

NOTE: This thread has received little use since the establishment of the thread HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Access, Rules (2017). Please use that thread to inquire about Lounge access. A few more recent posts have been moved to that thread.


Relax in more premium lounges around the world

If your oneworld® frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.

This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.

To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
  • Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result.

  • Lounges operated by third parties are identified in the lounge finder tool (above). Access to these lounges is restricted to eligible customers when travelling on specific oneworld airlines as shown in the lounge finder tool.

  • Arrivals lounges are excluded.

  • Spa and Pre-Flight Dining facilities are excluded.

  • British Airways Concorde lounges are excluded.

  • Other exceptions may apply (see below).

oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)

Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
  • Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. First Class passengers may use a Business Class or frequent flyer lounge if a First Class lounge is not available.

  • First Class passengers may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline.

  • Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights:

  • First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).

  • Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.

  • You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
The following exceptions apply:
  1. First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access.

  2. Guests are not permitted at Qatar Airways Al Safwa and Al Mourjan lounges at Hamad International Airport in Doha or Qatar Airways Premium Lounge at London Heathrow Terminal 4.

Please see the following resources for further details on Class of Service Based Lounge Access Rules:

. . . oneworld Lounge Access Wizard , created by FlyerTalk member imagineertobe

. . . ● AA.com: AA Lounge Access Rules

. . . ● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool

. . . ● FlyerGuide Wiki: Lounges

. . . ● FT thread: AAdvantage status-based access to AA & oneworld lounges (consolidated)

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Old Dec 13, 11, 6:20 am
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Originally Posted by jh811 View Post
The new wording isnt exactly being enforced yet. I was able to access qantas first lounge at HKG with a cx first boarding pass
I'm not too surprised to hear that considering I don't think any oneworld airline has updated its website with the new rule yet.
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Old Dec 13, 11, 6:27 am
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Originally Posted by jh811 View Post
The new wording isnt exactly being enforced yet. I was able to access qantas first lounge at HKG with a cx first boarding pass
Are you an Emerald on OW? If so, that restriction doesn't apply.
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Old Dec 14, 11, 12:58 am
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Nope, no staus for me. I was accessing based on my service class
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Old Dec 15, 11, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by SocietyFlyGirl View Post
Pro-active as in will AA book you on DL before JFK-ORD is cancelled? No. I doubt it. EXP desk even told me (but others' mileage will vary) that they don't "protect" in advance anymore -- even EXPs. But AA may book you on DL after your flight is cancelled -- if you ask nicely , even though you are on a mileage ticket. I imagine that YMMV on that one and first they'd probably tell you to get over to LGA for one of those flights . An AA agent told me that they would rebook my status-less relatives traveling on award tickets* without me, if necessary but we didn't actually have to go for that option so I don't have a real world test to see if it would really work.

But you may be worrying about something that won't even have a chance --If AA cancels NYC-ORD due to WX, DL might cancel theirs as well.

* Yes, I'm friends' and family's local, unpaid travel agent!
When I was flying an MR to Gatwick, coming back I was flagged by AA staff while I was still waiting in Immigration line, that my next flight would arrive late (routing was DCA-DFW-STL-RDU-LGW-RDU-MIA-DCA => see, an MR indeed ) so that I would miss a connection on the last flight that night MIA-DCA, so they were re-booking me direct to DCA on United so I would still arrive that evening (in fact slightly ahead of schedule).

And I had no problem calling up Customer Service later and getting Original Routing Credit. I was a little disappointed that I wasn't going to visit MIA (for the first time), adding a new airport and routes to my FlightMemory, nor making a new record in number of segments in an MR (with 24 hour layover in London) -- my longest was a 13-segment oneworld award: DCA-ORD-YYZ-LHR-NRT-HKG-SYD-MEL-SYD-CHC-ZQN-AKL-LAX-IAD spread across 33 days!)

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Old Dec 15, 11, 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by bangkokiscool View Post
Well, it looks like OW has issued a lounge policy update/clarification. Ruby and non-elites must use only the operating airline's lounge (or contracted lounge I suppose) even in J and F. The new policy states:



How generous -- "you are free to enjoy that airline's First or Business Class lounge before departure!"
As well as to Sapphires in F.
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Old Jan 5, 12, 10:07 am
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LHR T3 BA Galleries First Access for AA F Ticket Holder

Interestingly my wife and I were coming back to the US yesterday via LHR and both of us were on an AA flight, although she was flying F and I was in business. I presented my EXP card so we could get into the BA Galleries First lounge and the attendant cleared my BP 1st. She asked if my wife was my guest, told her yes, and then she took her BP to scan and said "you could get it on your own too since you're flying First". Didn't say anything, but was a little surprised since the BA Lounge folks are usually very strict with the rules, so I don't know what to read into it..
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Old Jan 23, 12, 8:23 pm
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LAX-JFK-SJO: Flagship access

I'm traveling First class on a 3 class transcon LAX-JFK, then connecting to SJO via MIA (JFK-MIA in First, MIA-SJO in international business). I'm also Oneworld Sapphire.

Will I have access to the Flagship lounge at LAX, assuming my LAX-JFK is booked in F or Z inventory?

Will I have access to the Flagship or the Admiral's Club at JFK? Does it make any difference if the onward flight to MIA and then SJO is the same day, or the next morning?

Thanks.
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Old Jan 23, 12, 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by sspicer View Post
I'm traveling First class on a 3 class transcon LAX-JFK, then connecting to SJO via MIA (JFK-MIA in First, MIA-SJO in international business). I'm also Oneworld Sapphire.

Will I have access to the Flagship lounge at LAX, assuming my LAX-JFK is booked in F or Z inventory?

Will I have access to the Flagship or the Admiral's Club at JFK? Does it make any difference if the onward flight to MIA and then SJO is the same day, or the next morning?

Thanks.
Yes, you'll have access to the Flagship Lounge at LAX and JFK when you land if you are booked in F or Z for the LAX-JFK leg. (http://www.aa.com/i18nForward.do?p=/...ntalPassengers)

You'll also have all Admirals Clubs and oneworld business class lounges as a BAEC Silver / oneworld Sapphire. http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access/

Technically you would only get access to the Flagship Lounge on the same day as your flight or if you have a flight before 6am the next day. If your JFK-MIA is the first flight of the next day (that is, you were on the last flight in, first flight out in the morning), then you may get a sympathetic agent who will let you into the FL. Else, you'll be able to use the Admirals Club at JFK and MIA. (http://www.aa.com/i18nForward.do?p=/...worldCustomers)
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Old Mar 21, 12, 4:39 pm
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MAD Lounge?

Do not usually fly AA (hence the name) but will be flying AA DFW-MAD-LIS soon. The DFW-MAD leg is in business while the MAD-LIS leg in economy. Anyone know if I will access to the Iberia Lounge in MAD on the basis of the TATL business ticket?
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Old Mar 21, 12, 4:47 pm
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According to oneworld lounge access rules, yes, you have access in MAD. (Assuming you're flying AA from DFW-MAD, then IB from MAD-LIS?)

http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access/

oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class travellers

Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with a oneworld member airline.

Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. (First Class passengers may be accompanied by one guest travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline).

Customers flying in Economy class on the domestic or intra-European segment to connect to or from a oneworld longhaul First or Business Class flight can also use the lounge applicable to the class in which they are travelling the longhaul segment.
(underlining is mine)
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Old Mar 21, 12, 4:55 pm
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Originally Posted by JY1024 View Post
According to oneworld lounge access rules, yes, you have access in MAD. (Assuming you're flying AA from DFW-MAD, then IB from MAD-LIS?)

http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access/



(underlining is mine)

Yes, AA DFW-MAD and IB MAD-LIS.
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Old Mar 21, 12, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by UAkls View Post
Yes, AA DFW-MAD and IB MAD-LIS.
Then you'll be fine. (Just checking as not sure how it would work if your MAD-LIS flight was a non-oneworld flight...)



And for organisational purposes, we'll merge this into our general thread discussion "class of service" access to oneworld lounges. /Moderator
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Old Mar 21, 12, 6:48 pm
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CDG lounge

As an EXP will I have access to an arrivals lounge at CDG?

Any comments on the CP lounge vs the AA lounge?

Thanks

Last edited by FlyingTexasGal; Mar 21, 12 at 6:48 pm Reason: forgot to add the last of my question
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Old Mar 21, 12, 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingTexasGal View Post
As an EXP will I have access to an arrivals lounge at CDG?

Any comments on the CP lounge vs the AA lounge?

Thanks
Arrivals lounges are not a Oneworld benefit. There is no AA arrivals lounge at CDG. So no.

CP went out of business in 2001, so no CP lounge.
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Old Mar 21, 12, 8:46 pm
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I understand the "same day" rule but didn't "same day" used to mean within a 24 hour period? I could have sworn I was told this years ago when coming in late from Asia in J; sleeping overnight at a NYC hotel; and then flying on a domestic leg the next afternoon qualified me under class of service rules. Apparently it is not this way now so perhaps I am imagining things.
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