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Lounge Access for oneworld First or Business Class Passengers

NOTE: This thread has received little use since the establishment of the thread HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Access, Rules (2017). Please use that thread to inquire about Lounge access. A few more recent posts have been moved to that thread.


Relax in more premium lounges around the world

If your oneworldŽ frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.

This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.

To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
  • Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result.

  • Lounges operated by third parties are identified in the lounge finder tool (above). Access to these lounges is restricted to eligible customers when travelling on specific oneworld airlines as shown in the lounge finder tool.

  • Arrivals lounges are excluded.

  • Spa and Pre-Flight Dining facilities are excluded.

  • British Airways Concorde lounges are excluded.

  • Other exceptions may apply (see below).

oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)

Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
  • Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. First Class passengers may use a Business Class or frequent flyer lounge if a First Class lounge is not available.

  • First Class passengers may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline.

  • Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights:

  • First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).

  • Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.

  • You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
The following exceptions apply:
  1. First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access.

  2. Guests are not permitted at Qatar Airways Al Safwa and Al Mourjan lounges at Hamad International Airport in Doha or Qatar Airways Premium Lounge at London Heathrow Terminal 4.

Please see the following resources for further details on Class of Service Based Lounge Access Rules:

. . . oneworld Lounge Access Wizard , created by FlyerTalk member imagineertobe

. . . ● AA.com: AA Lounge Access Rules

. . . ● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool

. . . ● FlyerGuide Wiki: Lounges

. . . ● FT thread: AAdvantage status-based access to AA & oneworld lounges (consolidated)

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Old Aug 31, 11, 11:08 pm
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Originally Posted by daveland View Post
Fantastic, thanks. Never would have thought I could on an intra-North American itin but I guess it's yet another novelty of redeeming AA miles for CX F on this route

I guess the reason is that only AA terms US to Canada as domestic while for other OneWorld carriers it is considered international?
AA elite members are restricted according to the lounge access rule. No all airline has such rule.

Since you redeemed miles for CX ticket, so lounge access is granted base on CX F ticket.

Lounge Access by Tier Status
Emerald: When travelling on any of the oneworld member airlines, any customer who has earned Emerald tier status, is welcome (with one guest travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline) at any oneworld airlines' pre-flight lounges, including First Class, Business Class and frequent flyer lounges regardless of the class they are travelling in.

Sapphire: When travelling on any oneworld member airline, any customer with Sapphire tier status is welcome (with one guest travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline) at any oneworld airlines' pre-flight Business Class and frequent flyer lounges regardless of class of travel.

Exceptions:

1. American Airlines AAdvantageŽ Program: American Airlines AAdvantageŽ Program members, regardless of their tier status, may not use lounges when travelling on solely North American itineraries (defined as within or between the USA, Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean). In these cases, access rules are governed by American Airlines' own rules (ie paid lounge-access membership).

2. Qantas Frequent Flyer Programme: Qantas Frequent Flyer Gold members may not use the Qantas Domestic Business Class Lounges.




Lounge Access by Class of Travel
Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. (First Class passengers may be accompanied by one guest travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline).

Customers flying in Economy class on the domestic or intra-European segment to connect to or from a oneworld longhaul First or Business Class flight can also use the lounge applicable to the class in which they are travelling the longhaul segment.

Exception: American Airlines AAdvantageŽ Program members, regardless of their tier status, may not use lounges when travelling solely on North American itineraries (defined as within or between the USA, Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean). In these cases, access rules are governed by American Airlines' own rules (ie paid lounge-access membership).
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by daveland View Post
I'm flying in F on CX from JFK-YVR.

The chart on the CX site implies I can have BA lounge access at JFK, but I'm skeptical since it's only US-Canada (not generally considered international). Likewise, any access on the return in YVR?

Any experiences?
But the bigger question is, can you use the JFK FL if you have a connecting flight into JFK before your onward JFK-YVR flight? I prefer the JFK FL over the BA JFK 1st lounge.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:26 am
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oneworld rules would not permit lounge access for someone flying on a solely North American itinerary, such as JFK-YVR, BOS-JFK-YVR or the like. It's very possible that the people staffing the lounges at T7 are unaware of these restrictions, or are intentionally disregarding them, but the alliance's lounge access rules carve out a specific exception for such flights, and any exceptions should be considered gravy.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 12:02 pm
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Hi everybody,

I have an itenerary BOS-JFK-YYZ-HKG-SHA using AA points.

BOS-JFK on AA Z (AA.com shows "first")
JFK-YYZ on MQ U (AA.com shows "business")
YYZ-HKG on CX Z (should be first)
HKG-SHA on KA U (business)

So my question is, can I enter the first class lounge (or any lounge at all?) at BOS/JFK given my international leg is from YYZ?

And by the way YYZ-HKG leaves after midnight. So technically it's not on the same day as the early segments. Does that matter?

According to CX forum's FAQ, I should be given first class lounge invitations for YYZ and HKG by CX agents at YYZ. So hopefully these two airports won't be a problem...
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Old Sep 1, 11, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by willywuua View Post
Hi everybody,

I have an itenerary BOS-JFK-YYZ-HKG-SHA using AA points.

BOS-JFK on AA Z (AA.com shows "first")
JFK-YYZ on MQ U (AA.com shows "business")
YYZ-HKG on CX Z (should be first)
HKG-SHA on KA U (business)

So my question is, can I enter the first class lounge (or any lounge at all?) at BOS/JFK given my international leg is from YYZ?

And by the way YYZ-HKG leaves after midnight. So technically it's not on the same day as the early segments. Does that matter?

According to CX forum's FAQ, I should be given first class lounge invitations for YYZ and HKG by CX agents at YYZ. So hopefully these two airports won't be a problem...
BOS - Admirals Club
JFK - Flagship Lounge and Admirals Club
YYZ - KLM Lounge
HKG - Array of CX First and Business Lounges
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Old Sep 1, 11, 12:55 pm
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HNL is spot on, assuming that these flights are all on the same day.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 1:12 pm
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first class award tickets from PEK to ORD, then connect to american eagle (coach only).

can have access to lounge in both PEK (CX lounge) and ORD (AC or first lounge), right? passengers have no status on any airlines.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 1:41 pm
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Originally Posted by mingw View Post
first class award tickets from PEK to ORD, then connect to american eagle (coach only).

can have access to lounge in both PEK (CX lounge) and ORD (AC or first lounge), right? passengers have no status on any airlines.
Correct. Show the ORD Club reps the inbound same-day international boarding pass with the outbound Eagle boarding pass.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 3:21 pm
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Dublin, Ireland access

I see that EXP has access to the Aer Lingus Gold Circle Lounge on the day of a departing flight, but does anyone know if you also have access on arrival? Meeting a friend and my flight lands three hours before his. Any other lounge options? Flying in business class from Chicago, if it makes any difference.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by funnyman1515 View Post
I see that EXP has access to the Aer Lingus Gold Circle Lounge on the day of a departing flight, but does anyone know if you also have access on arrival? Meeting a friend and my flight lands three hours before his. Any other lounge options? Flying in business class from Chicago, if it makes any difference.
Arrivals and departures are separated, so no. Upon arrival you will need to clear immigration/
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Old Sep 1, 11, 4:31 pm
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Double farts! Thanks for the info; guess I'll just have to see if there's anywhere I can wait in Ireland that has beer...
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Old Sep 1, 11, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Microwave View Post
oneworld rules would not permit lounge access for someone flying on a solely North American itinerary, such as JFK-YVR, BOS-JFK-YVR or the like. It's very possible that the people staffing the lounges at T7 are unaware of these restrictions, or are intentionally disregarding them, but the alliance's lounge access rules carve out a specific exception for such flights, and any exceptions should be considered gravy.
Don't see any confusion and it's long discussed, just re-post the oneworld rule, so you will be clear. I guess you fly too much on american.
OP was holding a CX ticket, although redeemed using AA miles; AA rule would not apply.
Don't get confused when you are flying AA within NA, then AA rule MAY apply (see note below). However, when you use ie CX Gold card in North America, flying within NA, I won't see any problem using the AC lounge.


Lounge Access by Class of Travel
Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. (First Class passengers may be accompanied by one guest travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline).

Customers flying in Economy class on the domestic or intra-European segment to connect to or from a oneworld longhaul First or Business Class flight can also use the lounge applicable to the class in which they are travelling the longhaul segment.

Exception: American Airlines AAdvantageŽ Program members, regardless of their tier status, may not use lounges when travelling solely on North American itineraries (defined as within or between the USA, Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean). In these cases, access rules are governed by American Airlines' own rules (ie paid lounge-access membership).
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Old Sep 1, 11, 8:48 pm
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Ireland? Beer? None at all, other than Guinness and a million places that serve beer.

Originally Posted by funnyman1515 View Post
Double farts! Thanks for the info; guess I'll just have to see if there's anywhere I can wait in Ireland that has beer...
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Fly2Where View Post
Don't see any confusion and it's long discussed, just re-post the oneworld rule, so you will be clear. I guess you fly too much on american.
I was assuming that daveland would be relying on AA status for lounge access--I missed that he was in F. Apologies for the misread.
That said, it's worth pointing out that someone with AA Platinum or EXP status flying this route in Y would not be assured status-based access based on oneworld rules.
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Old Sep 13, 11, 5:38 pm
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I think I know based on this page http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...ungeAccess.jsp

but I just wanted to verify.

Flying with my family on award tickets JFK-LAX in business in U.

We should have AC access?

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