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Lounge Access for oneworld First or Business Class Passengers
NOTE: This thread has received little use since the establishment of the thread HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Access, Rules (2017). Please use that thread to inquire about Lounge access. A few more recent posts have been moved to that thread.
Relax in more premium lounges around the world
If your oneworld® frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.
This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.
To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)
Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
The following exceptions apply:
If your oneworld® frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.
This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.
To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
- Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result.
- Lounges operated by third parties are identified in the lounge finder tool (above). Access to these lounges is restricted to eligible customers when travelling on specific oneworld airlines as shown in the lounge finder tool.
- Arrivals lounges are excluded.
- Spa and Pre-Flight Dining facilities are excluded.
- British Airways Concorde lounges are excluded.
- Other exceptions may apply (see below).
oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)
Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
- Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. First Class passengers may use a Business Class or frequent flyer lounge if a First Class lounge is not available.
- First Class passengers may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline.
- Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights:
- First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
- Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.
- You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
- First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access.
- Guests are not permitted at Qatar Airways Al Safwa and Al Mourjan lounges at Hamad International Airport in Doha or Qatar Airways Premium Lounge at London Heathrow Terminal 4.
Please see the following resources for further details on Class of Service Based Lounge Access Rules:
. . . ● oneworld Lounge Access Wizard , created by FlyerTalk member imagineertobe
. . . ● AA.com: AA Lounge Access Rules
. . . ● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool
. . . ● FlyerGuide Wiki: Lounges
. . . ● FT thread: AAdvantage status-based access to AA & oneworld lounges (consolidated)
ARCHIVE: Lounge Access Based on Class of Service (master thread)
#256
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
We now have a 5 hour layover in Berlin on an AA/AB J ticket. We arrive from DFW/FRA and were advised to shower at the CX lounge at FRA but only have 2 hours and I assume we will have to go through some sort of passport control. We will obviously have way more downtime at TXL, are there any Oneworld shower facilities?
#257
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 787
I've read through a bit and still have questions - I am travelling on an AA award flight from YYZ to PPT with a stop at LAX. The YYZ-LAX segment is on a Sunday night and the LAX - PPT is mid-day on the monday (<24hrs, considered one continuous award flight). The LAX - PPT segment is in J (well, the whole award is J but the YYZ-LAX segment doesn't have J space, so for now we are in Y). My question is: will we have access to the AA lounge at YYZ prior to departing for LAX? I asked an AA agent and they seemed to think yes because it is an international J ticket, but I am not so sure since the J portion of the ticket is not the same day. Anyone have experience with a similar situation that could weigh in? If it makes any difference, LAX-PPT is on Air Tahiti Nui.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
#258
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,423
"First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa)."
http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access
http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access
#259
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 787
"First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa)."
http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access
http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access
Last edited by tylerc; Jun 19, 2015 at 7:09 am
#260
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
You can use TN lounges because / if you are flying Poerava Business. Your non-oneworld travel does not entitle you to any oneworld or AA lounge use.
#261
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 147
I found this quote from the following link about Flagship access.
My sis is traveling from NRT-ORD-EWR on a JAL First class connecting to a AA First Class. I booked the ticket with AA awards. Since there are non-revenue tickets, does this mean she wouldn't have access to Flagship Lounge in ORD?
Customers traveling on airline industry non-revenue tickets are not eligible for access
#262
Moderator: American AAdvantage
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
I found this quote from the following link about Flagship access.
My sis is traveling from NRT-ORD-EWR on a JAL First class connecting to a AA First Class. I booked the ticket with AA awards. Since there are non-revenue tickets, does this mean she wouldn't have access to Flagship Lounge in ORD?
My sis is traveling from NRT-ORD-EWR on a JAL First class connecting to a AA First Class. I booked the ticket with AA awards. Since there are non-revenue tickets, does this mean she wouldn't have access to Flagship Lounge in ORD?
#263
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 147
Thanks for the reply.
It looks like I misunderstood what "non-revenue ticket" is. I googled it, and it was completely different from what I expected.
Thank you again!
It looks like I misunderstood what "non-revenue ticket" is. I googled it, and it was completely different from what I expected.
Thank you again!
#264
Moderator: American AAdvantage
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
No worries. Your sis should have good lounge access; check the NRT and ORD offerings with the Lounge Dashboard "sticky" and we will wish her a safe, hassle-free trip.
#265
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 787
Their lounge rules are a bit confusing...*A is much more straight forward!
#266
Moderator: American AAdvantage
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
I've read through a bit and still have questions - I am travelling on an AA award flight from YYZ to PPT with a stop at LAX. The YYZ-LAX segment is on a Sunday night and the LAX - PPT is mid-day on the monday (<24hrs, considered one continuous award flight). The LAX - PPT segment is in J (well, the whole award is J but the YYZ-LAX segment doesn't have J space, so for now we are in Y). My question is: will we have access to the AA lounge at YYZ prior to departing for LAX? I asked an AA agent and they seemed to think yes because it is an international J ticket, but I am not so sure since the J portion of the ticket is not the same day. Anyone have experience with a similar situation that could weigh in? If it makes any difference, LAX-PPT is on Air Tahiti Nui.
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
You have no qualifying flight activity for oneworld or AA lounge access.
1) You may be arriving internationally on Air Tahiti Nui, but TN is not a oneworld member or affiliate, so this sector is not germane. (Your award flight is on a TN flight number, but if you were flying TN as an AA codeshare, it would still not qualify.)
To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
...are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access.
Last edited by JDiver; Jun 19, 2015 at 3:28 pm Reason: Add bits
#267
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NorCal
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott GLD, HH PLT, Hertz 5*
Posts: 766
I have a question regards Lounge access at GIG. I'm flying MIA-GIG-NAT with the GIG-NAT internal flight on TAM metal.
I'm EXP but also with Citi Exec Card.
Both the Admirals and the outboard flights to NAT are in terminal2 (don't know if they segment intl and domestic flights) and It's not clear whether i can use the 3rd Party TAM lounge.
Any AA fliers out there gained Admirals Club access for outboard Domestic TAM flight or allowed to use the TAM lounge(s) as Emerald Oneworld?
Thanks BM
I'm EXP but also with Citi Exec Card.
Both the Admirals and the outboard flights to NAT are in terminal2 (don't know if they segment intl and domestic flights) and It's not clear whether i can use the 3rd Party TAM lounge.
Any AA fliers out there gained Admirals Club access for outboard Domestic TAM flight or allowed to use the TAM lounge(s) as Emerald Oneworld?
Thanks BM
#268
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
I have a question regards Lounge access at GIG. I'm flying MIA-GIG-NAT with the GIG-NAT internal flight on TAM metal.
I'm EXP but also with Citi Exec Card.
Both the Admirals and the outboard flights to NAT are in terminal2 (don't know if they segment intl and domestic flights) and It's not clear whether i can use the 3rd Party TAM lounge.
Any AA fliers out there gained Admirals Club access for outboard Domestic TAM flight or allowed to use the TAM lounge(s) as Emerald Oneworld?
Thanks BM
I'm EXP but also with Citi Exec Card.
Both the Admirals and the outboard flights to NAT are in terminal2 (don't know if they segment intl and domestic flights) and It's not clear whether i can use the 3rd Party TAM lounge.
Any AA fliers out there gained Admirals Club access for outboard Domestic TAM flight or allowed to use the TAM lounge(s) as Emerald Oneworld?
Thanks BM
AFAIK, your Admirals Club membership allows you Admirals Club access because you have Terminal 2 access by virtue of your TAM departure.
Admirals Club, Terminal 2
GOL-Smiles VIP Room.
Not valid for arriving passengers. Transit passengers must have valid same-day ticket for departure permitting access through security.
GOL-Smiles VIP Room.
Not valid for arriving passengers. Transit passengers must have valid same-day ticket for departure permitting access through security.
#269
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NorCal
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott GLD, HH PLT, Hertz 5*
Posts: 766
Your oneworld Emerald status should allow you LATAM lounge access arriving on AA from MIA and flying outbound on TAM - possibly the ProAir First Class lounge.
AFAIK, your Admirals Club membership allows you Admirals Club access because you have Terminal 2 access by virtue of your TAM departure.
AFAIK, your Admirals Club membership allows you Admirals Club access because you have Terminal 2 access by virtue of your TAM departure.
#270
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 501
ORD-DUB
Flying in AA metal in business class (no first class on plane). Will we have access to FL?