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Old Apr 11, 2013, 8:02 pm
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Lounge Access for oneworld First or Business Class Passengers

NOTE: This thread has received little use since the establishment of the thread HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Access, Rules (2017). Please use that thread to inquire about Lounge access. A few more recent posts have been moved to that thread.


Relax in more premium lounges around the world

If your oneworld® frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.

This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.

To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
  • Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result.

  • Lounges operated by third parties are identified in the lounge finder tool (above). Access to these lounges is restricted to eligible customers when travelling on specific oneworld airlines as shown in the lounge finder tool.

  • Arrivals lounges are excluded.

  • Spa and Pre-Flight Dining facilities are excluded.

  • British Airways Concorde lounges are excluded.

  • Other exceptions may apply (see below).

oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)

Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
  • Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. First Class passengers may use a Business Class or frequent flyer lounge if a First Class lounge is not available.

  • First Class passengers may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline.

  • Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights:

  • First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).

  • Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.

  • You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
The following exceptions apply:
  1. First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access.

  2. Guests are not permitted at Qatar Airways Al Safwa and Al Mourjan lounges at Hamad International Airport in Doha or Qatar Airways Premium Lounge at London Heathrow Terminal 4.

Please see the following resources for further details on Class of Service Based Lounge Access Rules:

. . . oneworld Lounge Access Wizard , created by FlyerTalk member imagineertobe

. . . ● AA.com: AA Lounge Access Rules

. . . ● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool

. . . ● FlyerGuide Wiki: Lounges

. . . ● FT thread: AAdvantage status-based access to AA & oneworld lounges (consolidated)

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Old May 30, 2015, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by kmandrew
We now have a 5 hour layover in Berlin on an AA/AB J ticket. We arrive from DFW/FRA and were advised to shower at the CX lounge at FRA but only have 2 hours and I assume we will have to go through some sort of passport control. We will obviously have way more downtime at TXL, are there any Oneworld shower facilities?
The easiest way to check the lounge amenities nd locations is to use the Lounge Dashboard "sticky" and select the airports' lounge page.
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Old Jun 19, 2015, 5:03 am
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I've read through a bit and still have questions - I am travelling on an AA award flight from YYZ to PPT with a stop at LAX. The YYZ-LAX segment is on a Sunday night and the LAX - PPT is mid-day on the monday (<24hrs, considered one continuous award flight). The LAX - PPT segment is in J (well, the whole award is J but the YYZ-LAX segment doesn't have J space, so for now we are in Y). My question is: will we have access to the AA lounge at YYZ prior to departing for LAX? I asked an AA agent and they seemed to think yes because it is an international J ticket, but I am not so sure since the J portion of the ticket is not the same day. Anyone have experience with a similar situation that could weigh in? If it makes any difference, LAX-PPT is on Air Tahiti Nui.
Thanks in advance!
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Old Jun 19, 2015, 5:24 am
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"First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa)."

http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access
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Old Jun 19, 2015, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by richarddd
"First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa)."

http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access
I was aware of that, but TN is not a OW carrier...are the rules any different in this case? I know I can use the TN lounge at LAX. On the return I am j on TN then LAX ORD in y, and ORD YYZ in j. Can I use the lounge in both LAX and ORD?

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Old Jun 19, 2015, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by tylerc
I was aware of that, but TN is not a OW carrier...are the rules any different in this case? I know I can use the TN lounge at LAX. On the return I am j on TN then LAX ORD in y, and ORD YYZ in j. Can I use the lounge in both LAX and ORD?
You can use TN lounges because / if you are flying Poerava Business. Your non-oneworld travel does not entitle you to any oneworld or AA lounge use.
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Old Jun 19, 2015, 11:57 am
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I found this quote from the following link about Flagship access.

Customers traveling on airline industry non-revenue tickets are not eligible for access
My sis is traveling from NRT-ORD-EWR on a JAL First class connecting to a AA First Class. I booked the ticket with AA awards. Since there are non-revenue tickets, does this mean she wouldn't have access to Flagship Lounge in ORD?
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Old Jun 19, 2015, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by parioneti
I found this quote from the following link about Flagship access.



My sis is traveling from NRT-ORD-EWR on a JAL First class connecting to a AA First Class. I booked the ticket with AA awards. Since there are non-revenue tickets, does this mean she wouldn't have access to Flagship Lounge in ORD?
Award or purchased, they're treated the same for lounge access purposes; an award ticket is not generally considered a nonrev ticket. Once she processes USCBP formalities and TSA, she can access the Flagship Lounge - but if she wants a shower, those are in the Admirals Club.
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Old Jun 19, 2015, 12:19 pm
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Thanks for the reply.

It looks like I misunderstood what "non-revenue ticket" is. I googled it, and it was completely different from what I expected.

Thank you again!
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Old Jun 19, 2015, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by parioneti
Thanks for the reply.

It looks like I misunderstood what "non-revenue ticket" is. I googled it, and it was completely different from what I expected.

Thank you again!
No worries. Your sis should have good lounge access; check the NRT and ORD offerings with the Lounge Dashboard "sticky" and we will wish her a safe, hassle-free trip.
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Old Jun 19, 2015, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver
You can use TN lounges because / if you are flying Poerava Business. Your non-oneworld travel does not entitle you to any oneworld or AA lounge use.
Since coming back is part of an international itinerary, with domestic and international J (international on TN), would that get me lounge access at LAX and ORD?

Their lounge rules are a bit confusing...*A is much more straight forward!
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Old Jun 19, 2015, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by tylerc
I've read through a bit and still have questions - I am travelling on an AA award flight from YYZ to PPT with a stop at LAX. The YYZ-LAX segment is on a Sunday night and the LAX - PPT is mid-day on the monday (<24hrs, considered one continuous award flight). The LAX - PPT segment is in J (well, the whole award is J but the YYZ-LAX segment doesn't have J space, so for now we are in Y). My question is: will we have access to the AA lounge at YYZ prior to departing for LAX? I asked an AA agent and they seemed to think yes because it is an international J ticket, but I am not so sure since the J portion of the ticket is not the same day. Anyone have experience with a similar situation that could weigh in? If it makes any difference, LAX-PPT is on Air Tahiti Nui.
Thanks in advance!
Originally Posted by tylerc
Since coming back is part of an international itinerary, with domestic and international J (international on TN), would that get me lounge access at LAX and ORD?

Their lounge rules are a bit confusing...*A is much more straight forward!
They're pretty clear, though different than Star Alliance.

You have no qualifying flight activity for oneworld or AA lounge access.

1) You may be arriving internationally on Air Tahiti Nui, but TN is not a oneworld member or affiliate, so this sector is not germane. (Your award flight is on a TN flight number, but if you were flying TN as an AA codeshare, it would still not qualify.)

To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
2) Neither you flights between Canada and the USA nor your USA flights grant AA lounge access.

...are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access.

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Old Jun 19, 2015, 3:45 pm
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I have a question regards Lounge access at GIG. I'm flying MIA-GIG-NAT with the GIG-NAT internal flight on TAM metal.

I'm EXP but also with Citi Exec Card.

Both the Admirals and the outboard flights to NAT are in terminal2 (don't know if they segment intl and domestic flights) and It's not clear whether i can use the 3rd Party TAM lounge.

Any AA fliers out there gained Admirals Club access for outboard Domestic TAM flight or allowed to use the TAM lounge(s) as Emerald Oneworld?

Thanks BM
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Old Jun 19, 2015, 3:58 pm
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Originally Posted by burtonmadness
I have a question regards Lounge access at GIG. I'm flying MIA-GIG-NAT with the GIG-NAT internal flight on TAM metal.

I'm EXP but also with Citi Exec Card.

Both the Admirals and the outboard flights to NAT are in terminal2 (don't know if they segment intl and domestic flights) and It's not clear whether i can use the 3rd Party TAM lounge.

Any AA fliers out there gained Admirals Club access for outboard Domestic TAM flight or allowed to use the TAM lounge(s) as Emerald Oneworld?

Thanks BM
Your oneworld Emerald status should allow you LATAM lounge access arriving on AA from MIA and flying outbound on TAM - possibly the ProAir First Class lounge.

AFAIK, your Admirals Club membership allows you Admirals Club access because you have Terminal 2 access by virtue of your TAM departure.

Admirals Club, Terminal 2

GOL-Smiles VIP Room.

Not valid for arriving passengers. Transit passengers must have valid same-day ticket for departure permitting access through security.
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Old Jun 19, 2015, 4:09 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver
Your oneworld Emerald status should allow you LATAM lounge access arriving on AA from MIA and flying outbound on TAM - possibly the ProAir First Class lounge.

AFAIK, your Admirals Club membership allows you Admirals Club access because you have Terminal 2 access by virtue of your TAM departure.
Thats what I thought, but read something about access to the Smiles lounges was with TAM Business/First ticket as its not a oneworld lounge. (I would very much to be wrong, as the AA lounge doesn't open until 4pm, and I'm arriving at 9am from MIA.)
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Old Jun 25, 2015, 6:46 pm
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ORD-DUB

Flying in AA metal in business class (no first class on plane). Will we have access to FL?
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