Apr 11, 2013, 8:02 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
Lounge Access for oneworld First or Business Class Passengers
NOTE: This thread has received little use since the establishment of the thread HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Access, Rules (2017). Please use that thread to inquire about Lounge access. A few more recent posts have been moved to that thread.
Relax in more premium lounges around the world
If your oneworld® frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.
This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.
To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)
Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
The following exceptions apply:
If your oneworld® frequent flyer tier status is Emerald or Sapphire, or you are traveling in a First or Business Class cabin on a oneworld member airline, you can access more than 600 airport lounges throughout the world.
This means you can relax or catch up with work in comfort and style before departure, regardless of which oneworld member airline you choose to fly with.
To be eligible, you must be departing on a flight that is both marketed and operated by a oneworld member airline.
- Some lounges may get busy at peak times, and access to them may be restricted as a result.
- Lounges operated by third parties are identified in the lounge finder tool (above). Access to these lounges is restricted to eligible customers when travelling on specific oneworld airlines as shown in the lounge finder tool.
- Arrivals lounges are excluded.
- Spa and Pre-Flight Dining facilities are excluded.
- British Airways Concorde lounges are excluded.
- Other exceptions may apply (see below).
oneworld lounge access for First Class or Business Class customers (link)
Indulge yourself before departure in a wider range of airport lounges when you fly First Class or Business Class with any oneworld member airline.
- Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. First Class passengers may use a Business Class or frequent flyer lounge if a First Class lounge is not available.
- First Class passengers may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline.
- Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights:
- First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
- Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.
- You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
- First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access.
- Guests are not permitted at Qatar Airways Al Safwa and Al Mourjan lounges at Hamad International Airport in Doha or Qatar Airways Premium Lounge at London Heathrow Terminal 4.
Please see the following resources for further details on Class of Service Based Lounge Access Rules:
. . . ● oneworld Lounge Access Wizard , created by FlyerTalk member imagineertobe
. . . ● AA.com: AA Lounge Access Rules
. . . ● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool
. . . ● FlyerGuide Wiki: Lounges
. . . ● FT thread: AAdvantage status-based access to AA & oneworld lounges (consolidated)
ARCHIVE: Lounge Access Based on Class of Service (master thread)
Apr 22, 2012, 10:48 pm
#136
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Well, it seems based on the post from BrewerSEA that the rules have reverted to their original state. However, regardless of that, if you are departing on BA from T5 then there's no issue anyhow as AA has no T5 lounge.
Apr 30, 2012, 10:34 am
#137
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My fiancee and I will be traveling LFT-DFW-MIA-SXM at the end of May.
The DFW-MIA leg will be in paid first and the MIA-SXM will be in paid business (738 front cabin). LFT-DFW will be on an AA Eagle Embraer RJ (no F cabin).
It appears we will have no lounge access at DFW as DFW-MIA is domestic.
And it also appears we will have no lounge access at MIA as MIA-SXM is apparently excluded as it's a Caribbean route even though technically it is international.
Correct?
The DFW-MIA leg will be in paid first and the MIA-SXM will be in paid business (738 front cabin). LFT-DFW will be on an AA Eagle Embraer RJ (no F cabin).
It appears we will have no lounge access at DFW as DFW-MIA is domestic.
And it also appears we will have no lounge access at MIA as MIA-SXM is apparently excluded as it's a Caribbean route even though technically it is international.
Correct?
Apr 30, 2012, 11:15 am
#138
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Location: London, England
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My fiancee and I will be traveling LFT-DFW-MIA-SXM at the end of May.
The DFW-MIA leg will be in paid first and the MIA-SXM will be in paid business (738 front cabin). LFT-DFW will be on an AA Eagle Embraer RJ (no F cabin).
It appears we will have no lounge access at DFW as DFW-MIA is domestic.
And it also appears we will have no lounge access at MIA as MIA-SXM is apparently excluded as it's a Caribbean route even though technically it is international.
Correct?
The DFW-MIA leg will be in paid first and the MIA-SXM will be in paid business (738 front cabin). LFT-DFW will be on an AA Eagle Embraer RJ (no F cabin).
It appears we will have no lounge access at DFW as DFW-MIA is domestic.
And it also appears we will have no lounge access at MIA as MIA-SXM is apparently excluded as it's a Caribbean route even though technically it is international.
Correct?
If SXM were a destination that permitted lounge access, you would get access in DFW assuming same-day onward travel out of MIA to SXM--that first leg being domestic wouldn't disqualify you in DFW. However, it is not, so you won't.
May 11, 2012, 2:08 am
#139
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: (SJC)
Posts: 2,198
I have read through and posted in the help desk, but I would like to ask here.
I have no OW Status.
YVR-JFK-DCA
International first class on CX888 (AA Award/Stock)
What lounge(s) can I use in JFK? (4 hour layover)
On the return can I use a lounge in DCA? (+Guest?)
As I understand I get BA Galleries or First, but not Concorde @ JFK.
I have no OW Status.
YVR-JFK-DCA
International first class on CX888 (AA Award/Stock)
What lounge(s) can I use in JFK? (4 hour layover)
On the return can I use a lounge in DCA? (+Guest?)
As I understand I get BA Galleries or First, but not Concorde @ JFK.
May 11, 2012, 6:40 am
#140
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I have read through and posted in the help desk, but I would like to ask here.
I have no OW Status.
YVR-JFK-DCA
International first class on CX888 (AA Award/Stock)
What lounge(s) can I use in JFK? (4 hour layover)
On the return can I use a lounge in DCA? (+Guest?)
As I understand I get BA Galleries or First, but not Concorde @ JFK.
I have no OW Status.
YVR-JFK-DCA
International first class on CX888 (AA Award/Stock)
What lounge(s) can I use in JFK? (4 hour layover)
On the return can I use a lounge in DCA? (+Guest?)
As I understand I get BA Galleries or First, but not Concorde @ JFK.
May 11, 2012, 9:45 am
#141
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVPG 75K
Posts: 2,574
I have read through and posted in the help desk, but I would like to ask here.
I have no OW Status.
YVR-JFK-DCA
International first class on CX888 (AA Award/Stock)
What lounge(s) can I use in JFK? (4 hour layover)
On the return can I use a lounge in DCA? (+Guest?)
As I understand I get BA Galleries or First, but not Concorde @ JFK.
I have no OW Status.
YVR-JFK-DCA
International first class on CX888 (AA Award/Stock)
What lounge(s) can I use in JFK? (4 hour layover)
On the return can I use a lounge in DCA? (+Guest?)
As I understand I get BA Galleries or First, but not Concorde @ JFK.
Originally Posted by Microwave
Outbound at YVR you'll have whatever first class lounge CX have arranged. You will have no lounge access at JFK. On the return, you'll have no lounge access at DCA, then Galleries First access at JFK T7.
May 12, 2012, 8:57 am
#143
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: (SJC)
Posts: 2,198
Further to my yvr-jfk-dca journey.
JFK T8 FL flat out denied me with 2 CX first boarding passes. Said three class F from Canada doesn't get in. (Even tho cx888 is the only three class from Canada to USA) I am aware CX888 is not valid for entry But it should be.
Walked 2 min to AC, was admitted without any questions.
Now on return
@DCA AC admitted with guest, no problem.
JFK T8 FL flat out denied me with 2 CX first boarding passes. Said three class F from Canada doesn't get in. (Even tho cx888 is the only three class from Canada to USA) I am aware CX888 is not valid for entry But it should be.
Walked 2 min to AC, was admitted without any questions.
Now on return
@DCA AC admitted with guest, no problem.
Last edited by AMRivlin; May 15, 2012 at 9:37 am
May 21, 2012, 1:33 pm
#144
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,424
The first post in this thread includes
"When you fly First or Business Class with a oneworld member airline, you are free to enjoy that airline’s First or Business Class lounge (depending on which class you are flying) before departure, regardless of your frequent flyer tier status."
oneworld's page has reverted to the old language that does not restrict you to "that airline's" lounge:
"Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. (First Class passengers may be accompanied by one guest travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline)."
http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access/
Are F and J passengers in fact still restricted to the lounge for the airline they are flying?
"When you fly First or Business Class with a oneworld member airline, you are free to enjoy that airline’s First or Business Class lounge (depending on which class you are flying) before departure, regardless of your frequent flyer tier status."
oneworld's page has reverted to the old language that does not restrict you to "that airline's" lounge:
"Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. (First Class passengers may be accompanied by one guest travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline)."
http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access/
Are F and J passengers in fact still restricted to the lounge for the airline they are flying?
May 21, 2012, 1:36 pm
#145
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVPG 75K
Posts: 2,574
The first post in this thread includes
"When you fly First or Business Class with a oneworld member airline, you are free to enjoy that airline’s First or Business Class lounge (depending on which class you are flying) before departure, regardless of your frequent flyer tier status."
oneworld's page has reverted to the old language that does not restrict you to "that airline's" lounge:
"Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. (First Class passengers may be accompanied by one guest travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline)."
http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access/
Are F and J passengers in fact still restricted to the lounge for the airline they are flying?
"When you fly First or Business Class with a oneworld member airline, you are free to enjoy that airline’s First or Business Class lounge (depending on which class you are flying) before departure, regardless of your frequent flyer tier status."
oneworld's page has reverted to the old language that does not restrict you to "that airline's" lounge:
"Customers flying First or Business Class have access to the equivalent class of lounge regardless of their frequent flyer status. (First Class passengers may be accompanied by one guest travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline)."
http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access/
Are F and J passengers in fact still restricted to the lounge for the airline they are flying?
May 21, 2012, 1:38 pm
#146
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,424
Thanks
In any event, the mods might want to edit the OP to reflect the revised language.
Last edited by richarddd; May 21, 2012 at 2:06 pm
May 21, 2012, 2:45 pm
#147
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVPG 75K
Posts: 2,574
I believe it has been discussed further elsewhere, perhaps here in the AAdvantage forum or over at BA or CX. Honestly I can't remember.
May 21, 2012, 3:08 pm
#148
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,424
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ge-access.html
I believe it has been discussed further elsewhere, perhaps here in the AAdvantage forum or over at BA or CX. Honestly I can't remember.
I believe it has been discussed further elsewhere, perhaps here in the AAdvantage forum or over at BA or CX. Honestly I can't remember.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17711805-post20.html
Perhaps someone with better search skills than you or me will point us to the relevant discussion or to some definitive answer.
Aug 26, 2012, 8:45 am
#149
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posts: 200
I've read through this thread and am still a bit confused.
No status. Used award miles. Flying AA LAX-YYZ Business and then connecting to BA YYZ-LHR First all in the same day.
At LAX, do I have FL or AC access? Both? Neither?
Also may I use the new Flagship check in at LAX?
Thank you for any clarification.
ERQ
No status. Used award miles. Flying AA LAX-YYZ Business and then connecting to BA YYZ-LHR First all in the same day.
At LAX, do I have FL or AC access? Both? Neither?
Also may I use the new Flagship check in at LAX?
Thank you for any clarification.
ERQ
Aug 26, 2012, 8:55 am
#150
Join Date: Feb 2008
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 3,049
I've read through this thread and am still a bit confused.
No status. Used award miles. Flying AA LAX-YYZ Business and then connecting to BA YYZ-LHR First all in the same day.
At LAX, do I have FL or AC access? Both? Neither?
Also may I use the new Flagship check in at LAX?
Thank you for any clarification.
ERQ
No status. Used award miles. Flying AA LAX-YYZ Business and then connecting to BA YYZ-LHR First all in the same day.
At LAX, do I have FL or AC access? Both? Neither?
Also may I use the new Flagship check in at LAX?
Thank you for any clarification.
ERQ
For the Flagship Check-in:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/urls/flagship...lagshipcheckin
"Traveling First Class onboard an international American or select oneworld alliance® carrier* anywhere in your outbound itinerary"
For the Flagship Lounge:
http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInforma...hipLounges.jsp
"oneworld First Class international* customers when departing on or connecting to a oneworld marketed and operated flight"