Discrepancy between QF and CX award search and AA availability
#31
Join Date: Sep 2005
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That has not been my experience. Of course, at the moment, until ATI kicks in, you cannot redeem TATL BA flights using AA miles, but that is a published policy, not the selective blocking that I was referring to in my original post.
I would like to know as well.
I would like to know as well.
#32
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That's a good point. If it's a Jetstar flight, then I, too, think that you can't redeem AA miles. If you look at aa.com, you'll see that Jetstar is NOT listed as one of the affiliates of QF.
In addition to the suggestion above, you can try and route via Asia (such as HGK or NRT) but that will require extra miles.
In addition to the suggestion above, you can try and route via Asia (such as HGK or NRT) but that will require extra miles.
#33
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#35
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result - i have many times not been able to take Mrs.G3 with me on business trips to EU or Africa, due to lack of BA availability, as she won't let me spend $ instead of miles.
#36
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I have many times used BA's website to search for award availability, then checked with AA's EXP desk to see if the same BA flights were available for AA award redemption as part of itineraries originating SFO (inside Europe, or from LHR to NBO) and there has NEVER (at least when I have called AA) been a match between AA and BA availability. I've always known about the BA TATL issue, and that is not the point here.... although I certainly hope, hope, hope that I'll be able to take the direct BA SFO-LHR flights under new ATI rules and get miles/EQM for them!
result - i have many times not been able to take Mrs.G3 with me on business trips to EU or Africa, due to lack of BA availability, as she won't let me spend $ instead of miles.
result - i have many times not been able to take Mrs.G3 with me on business trips to EU or Africa, due to lack of BA availability, as she won't let me spend $ instead of miles.
The proof on UA Starnet blocking is Star Alliance Partner A has award seats available on Star Alliance Partner B but UA doesn't.
#37
IME, AA does not block partner award availability, unlike some other sleazy airline:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-blocking.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-blocking.html
#38
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I have many times used BA's website to search for award availability, then checked with AA's EXP desk to see if the same BA flights were available for AA award redemption as part of itineraries originating SFO (inside Europe, or from LHR to NBO) and there has NEVER (at least when I have called AA) been a match between AA and BA availability.
#39
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I'm sure this is a function of my own understanding versus AA being "evil", but I was trying to book a pair of 1st class tickets on CX from ATL leaving Jan 28, 2011 +/-. KVS (using QF information) said 2 seats were available ex-JFK on at least a couple of those days and there were seats ex-LAX. However, the AAdvantage desk could only come up with 0 or 1 seat on those flights.
So, what's going on?
So, what's going on?
#40
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#41
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I've used AA miles down under 2 times and NEVER scored QF awards seats - and I usually search daily...so here I am once again looking at my 3rd time going down under and still NO availability. It must be a miracle to find theses seats I use the KVS tool too for F or J availability.
#42
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I've used AA miles down under 2 times and NEVER scored QF awards seats - and I usually search daily...so here I am once again looking at my 3rd time going down under and still NO availability. It must be a miracle to find theses seats I use the KVS tool too for F or J availability.
Some people get lucky though . . .
#43
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SJ
#44
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expert flyer shows Qantas, but not AA
expertflyer is showing availability on a qantas flight from dfw to syd, but when i call AA, they dont see availability. Does qantas only release a certain amount of seats to AA, and holds the rest for their own FF program?
#45
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Are you talking about award seats? If so, it would be helpful to say so.
QF uses Amadeus, in which inventory is loaded 355 days out. AA uses Sabre, in which inventory is loaded 330 days out. Thus, QF flyers always have a 25-day head start on available award seats. As you don't say what date you're looking at, it's impossible to know if that is the reason.
I'm not aware of any evidence that either AA or QF limits the number of seats available to AA flyers (compared with what is available to QF flyers). However, there have certainly been instances of AA agents being unable to 'see' available seats on QF. All you can do is tell them to keep looking or call back and try a different agent.
QF uses Amadeus, in which inventory is loaded 355 days out. AA uses Sabre, in which inventory is loaded 330 days out. Thus, QF flyers always have a 25-day head start on available award seats. As you don't say what date you're looking at, it's impossible to know if that is the reason.
I'm not aware of any evidence that either AA or QF limits the number of seats available to AA flyers (compared with what is available to QF flyers). However, there have certainly been instances of AA agents being unable to 'see' available seats on QF. All you can do is tell them to keep looking or call back and try a different agent.