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I'm not sure I understand the distinction? The net result was the same. The cost of my First ticket was the same had I purchased it on aa.com - i.e. the price of the economy fare via Expedia plus the $155 that I paid on my personal CC was the same as the published first class fare on aa.com for the same flights. It wasn't an in-app upgrade which, incidentally, also sees the booking also move into J and, for the few times I have done it, credits my BAEC correctly with the Tier Points and Avios for the higher cabin.
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Originally Posted by Geordie405
(Post 35742275)
I'm not sure I understand the distinction? The net result was the same. The cost of my First ticket was the same had I purchased it on aa.com - i.e. the price of the economy fare via Expedia plus the $155 that I paid on my personal CC was the same as the published first class fare on aa.com for the same flights. It wasn't an in-app upgrade which, incidentally, also sees the booking also move into J and, for the few times I have done it, credits my BAEC correctly with the Tier Points and Avios for the higher cabin.
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Originally Posted by USFlyerUS
(Post 35742354)
Then I think you've gotten lucky as, if you were crediting to AA, you would not get LPs for an upgrade but would for an upfare. My understanding is all in-app "upgrades" are actually upgrades and not upfares, even if the cost to upgrade is the differential between Y and F.
The only other trouble I've had with upgrades vs upfares is during irrops. The automatic re-booking function seems to keep you in J after an upfare which is good, but AA staff see your ticket as being in Y. I had to push hard at the AC for a rebooking into J. |
Originally Posted by Geordie405
(Post 35742275)
I'm not sure I understand the distinction? The net result was the same. The cost of my First ticket was the same had I purchased it on aa.com - i.e. the price of the economy fare via Expedia plus the $155 that I paid on my personal CC was the same as the published first class fare on aa.com for the same flights. It wasn't an in-app upgrade which, incidentally, also sees the booking also move into J and, for the few times I have done it, credits my BAEC correctly with the Tier Points and Avios for the higher cabin.
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Originally Posted by PHL
(Post 35742506)
Did you get LP's based on your original fare + the $150 upgrade offer you paid for? If you accepted an offer, the answer is usually 'no', unless they are now offering in-app upgrades for the same cost as an upfare and giving the LPs to save you the trouble of doing the 'change flight' option and picking your flight/accepting the fare difference.
Totally different note, $150 to grab an F seat on a 40 minute flight is a horrible value to most of us. To each their own..... Over here on the East coast, I'm routinely seeing $65 upgrade offers for trips like PHL-CLT, PHL-PIT and other ~500 mile or less trips. To the OP: all the other advice here is good but note that the $50 charge to take over the ticket from a TA is waived if you are EXP. |
So just to add some colour to my previous post...
The upgrade offer was presented on aa.com when I logged into my booking, I don't know whether I'd have been shown the same offer in the AA app - I didn't check as I was working on my notebook and it didn't seem necessary. For $64.50 one way and $94.00 the other it seemed like a good deal and so I stumped up the cash. The receipt I received from AA stated "Paid Upgrade" and it was $60.00 airfare and $4.50 taxes for one segment, and $87.44 and $6.56 respectively for the other. This was before the BA changes to Avios earnings kicked in, so I earned 40 TPs and 1750 Avios for each flight. Had it been under the new rules then the original base fare for the coach ticket was $272.20 and the upgrade fare component was $151.44 so that totals $423.64 which is what BA would have used to calculate the Avios. Using Oanda for the exchange rate (as opposed to the IATA one as I can't be bothered looking it up) that gives roughly GBP 346 so multiply that by 9 (as I am a GCH) gets you 3118 Avios. So under the new rules of the game I'd have been 382 Avios short compared to the old system. In terms of whether I have been "lucky" or not and how this would have impacted me if I was crediting to AA, well, I can't comment as I was crediting to BA and I got the TPs for the upgraded cabin. In terms of the OP's initial question and based on a fair number of flights I have taken my experience has been that accepting the in-app offer or the website offer leads to the booking code moving to J and - so far as it applies to the BAEC - crediting Tier Points at the rate applicable to the higher cabin. As is often the case on here YMMV. |
Originally Posted by VegasGambler
(Post 35742515)
To the OP: all the other advice here is good but note that the $50 charge to take over the ticket from a TA is waived if you are EXP.
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Originally Posted by USFlyerUS
(Post 35742657)
Is that written anywhere? I’ve always been asked to pay it and I’ve been EXP for many years.
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Originally Posted by USFlyerUS
(Post 35741355)
If you have to book the economy ticket with your corporate travel agent, AA will charge a $50 fee to 'take over' the ticket and do the change you request. However, your CTA should be able to do the upfare too, but I've found finding a CTA who understands what you are trying to do (i.e., that you're paying the difference out of pocket and not trying to violate policy) can be a challenge.
I had a couple where AA Meeting Services told me that it was no longer permitted post-Covid. |
Originally Posted by USFlyerUS
(Post 35741355)
If you have to book the economy ticket with your corporate travel agent, AA will charge a $50 fee to 'take over' the ticket and do the change you request. However, your CTA should be able to do the upfare too, but I've found finding a CTA who understands what you are trying to do (i.e., that you're paying the difference out of pocket and not trying to violate policy) can be a challenge.
Originally Posted by VegasGambler
(Post 35742515)
To the OP: all the other advice here is good but note that the $50 charge to take over the ticket from a TA is waived if you are EXP.
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Originally Posted by hbtr
(Post 35743176)
I frequently upfare tickets booked using our CTA by calling in to AA, and I have never had to pay the $50 charge to upfare (which is fortunate since our CTA simply won’t do it). I have never seen anything written or stated that being EXP is what gets the fee waived; I was under the impression (mainly from FT posts) that it depended more on the relationship between the particular CTA and AA. I recall never having to pay a $50 fee when I was PLAT but that was many years ago.
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Booked on a flight to KIN next month and want to upgrade from Economy to First/Business.
Called in to upgrade using miles and got transferred to another desk and was eventually told they could not upgrade with miles because it was a corporate ticket. I have never heard this before. I checked EF for AA 1400 on the day I am leaving and the current line availability is C4 J6 R1 D3 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 Should I HUCA or is this correct? I'm going to have to pay hundreds more to upgrade if I go the cash route, otherwise take my chances with the complimentary upgrade. I'm currently AA Platinum Pro. |
Originally Posted by SCChris
(Post 35742988)
Has anyone been able to have AA take over a CTA issued ticket recently?
I had a couple where AA Meeting Services told me that it was no longer permitted post-Covid. |
Originally Posted by AsiaTravel2019
(Post 35744225)
Booked on a flight to KIN next month and want to upgrade from Economy to First/Business.
Called in to upgrade using miles and got transferred to another desk and was eventually told they could not upgrade with miles because it was a corporate ticket. I have never heard this before. I checked EF for AA 1400 on the day I am leaving and the current line availability is C4 J6 R1 D3 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S0 N0 Q0 O0 Should I HUCA or is this correct? I'm going to have to pay hundreds more to upgrade if I go the cash route, otherwise take my chances with the complimentary upgrade. I'm currently AA Platinum Pro. |
Originally Posted by no2chem
(Post 35744240)
that seems silly, definitely HUCA, not even an upfare, should be similar process to applying swu which ive done on many corp rickets recently
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