JonNYC

Just the fact there is no "crawl-over" and single seating is really, really nice. A very nice improvement over existing 763 J-seating, needless to say.

Upgraded!

I haven't flown the new J seat yet (obviously). However I cannot imagine it not being a substantial improvement over the current/soon-to-be-previous J seat. Then again, when previously ranking AA's premium seats, I was among the few to rank the 762 J seat higher than the 763 J seat.

Particularly when it's obviously being asserted at the wrong time. At least save those gripes for when there's a clear devaluation/downward trend for everyone (like reinstitution of the change fee on deep-discount domestic F fares) or even just for some (loss of AC access with Amex Plat; no more free MCE for GLD).

hillrider

This statement is puzzling (it's a joke, right?) and I vehemently disagree; I am reminded of how massively better the new seats are every time I fly on the 762 J who still has the exact same 1998 recliners -- the 2006 763 seats are miles ahead in comfort, even when you don't set them to their slanted flat configuration (yes, you can use them as recliners).

ExpatExp

Sadly, not joking! I might not state it vehemently, but I have always found (and continue to find) that the old blue recliners are significantly more comfortable than the newer ski slopes, and that they provide more comfortable sitting, reclining, and sleeping positions than the ski slopes. While I do appreciate the other, more modern features of the ski slope seating units, when it comes to the seating area itself, I would gladly take an old 762 J seat over a 763 J seat, any day!

teemuflyer

I'm excited about the new seat as well, and agree with your other observations, except you don't have to keep the pillow and duvet on the floor in the mean time, just throw them behind the seat back and retrieve when you want to set up your bed..

sbams

Scandalous

austin_res

I think it's all a matter of perspective. I have flown the 2006 business seats, and while they don't match up to the 77W business seats, they are way more comfortable than any coach seat. I hope to someday try out the 2014 763 business seats; it looks like an improvement over the 2006 seats according to the pictures.

JDiver

The current product does that - the footcatcher / shoecrusher on NGBC is like that. Ah well it is an interim product; the 77W is here, the 772 is beginning its CIP, the 787 will finally be here (so say Boeing spokesperson Mr. Vladimir Pundit and AA spokesperson Ms. Gloria Estragon. )

We can call this "IBC" (Interim Business Class) or merely classify it as an "ABC" product (Always Beats Coach).

FAA1996

I wonder how it compares to the J seats in the 32B, I find those to be very narrow and small/short. My feet usually hit the bottom and I have to keep my feet sideways (small space for feet). However I think they are better than the NGBC seat, is if these are similar space wise, they will be ok although not ideal.

aa4ever

I've been on the DL seat (in the 764). Honestly, I really liked it and found it super-comfortable for sleeping. In fact, I found it more comfortable than AA Flagship suite, which I found comparably "lumpy" versus this seat. If I think back, I guess it's a bit narrow, but for anyone of average or below average weight, I would think it should be comfortable. I definitely didn't feel like I was remotely tight or claustrophobic.

JonNYC

Glad to hear it. I mean I'm sure we'll all be incredibly surprised if we don't see reports that call the seat "tight," "awful" and "torture-like" etc., etc

But I, for one, am glad to hear there's some hope.

elitetraveler

Having flown on these seats on both LX and DL, I will say they look more impressive than they are. However, they have good work space and depending on the seat some extra floor storage space to your side.

The problem I found is the foot space and in the throne seats when in the bed position I am knocking elbows against the sides. After taking a look at other LX seats my last flight it looked like the single non-throne seats are probably better -- there is extra shoulder and foot room because the seat opens either to the curved wall of the aircraft or to the aisle.

My overall J-type seat ratings would be:

1. EY Staggered J suites (window) and BA 744 Row 62 or 64AK
1a. CX/US/BR/AA/DL744-330 style reverse herring bone
3. QR 777 J seats -- 2x2x2 - 78 inch pitch with unimpeded foot space (TK also has 78 inches w no foot impediments which makes these seats great for folks who move when sleeping.
4. AC/VS/DL herring bone
5. DL/LX staggered J
6. PMCO J (poor footspace - awkward stepover)
7. PMUA backwards/forwards - absolutely no privacy

carlosdca

You cannot compare the 744J with 763J. Not fair. The 763s body is too narrow to fit a seat designed for the 744.

I wish you had compiled a ranking of only 763 J seats.

This tread is really something.
As said numerous times upthread, the are not too many solutions that provide ALL of the following for a 763:
-All Aisle Access
-Flat Bed.
-Competitive # of seats density.

It will never be a hotel king size bed. Even then, people would complain about the mattress being to firm (or soft).

elitetraveler

I'm not wed to a particular airline, so seat comfort does impact the airline I fly.

But what good is it to compare 767s AC with 1x1x1 herring bone vs. PMCO 2x1x2 vs PMUA 2x2x2 vs DL and AA staggered unless you are talking it is a route where they are all using the same aircraft.

If you are going NYC-MXP your choice of nonstop flights includes 777s, 330s and 767s - and is going to be AA staggered, DL staggered, EK whatever they have on their 777s, PMCO 2x1x2 767 or AZ 330 which has the same terrific EY J seats. In this case AZ would be my choice.

It's not the customer's fault an airline has a particular type of aircraft configured in a certain way.

JonNYC

If you were just gonna name favorite/best/nice business-class seats without regard to the suitability to the actual plane being discussed, though, (AA new 763 new business class,) I'm a little surprised you forgot about SQ.