Promo: Double EQM - again! DBLEQ, Sep 2 - Dec 15 2009 (consolidated)
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#287
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just to clarify, is the consensus that if you fly on let's say 12/14, the double EQM from this flight will count towards 2009 (i.e. post before 12/31)? on the one hand people seem to be speculating that the 6-8 weeks is a maximum, and in practice they will do one last sweep before 12/31 so that everything posts for 2009 - and otoh people are saying that some of it will post early next year. specifically, i am wondering this wrt ELTRW.
so, to repeat: is the expectation that all of the flying i do from now through 12/15 will count double for the purposes of ELTRW?
so, to repeat: is the expectation that all of the flying i do from now through 12/15 will count double for the purposes of ELTRW?
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This question is an excellent one. It will be very confusing to deal with people who reach a new elite level thanks to the double EQM promotion if those EQMs don't post until we are into the 2010 qualification year. How are we supposed to keep track once the counters reset?
Let's hope they do a big "batch" on or about Dec 31, and the last one a week or 10 days later, when the last week of activity has posted. It will suck if people who reach EXP based on DEQM activity flown on Dec 31 have to wait until the middle of Feb to see their status update!
This question is an excellent one. It will be very confusing to deal with people who reach a new elite level thanks to the double EQM promotion if those EQMs don't post until we are into the 2010 qualification year. How are we supposed to keep track once the counters reset?
Let's hope they do a big "batch" on or about Dec 31, and the last one a week or 10 days later, when the last week of activity has posted. It will suck if people who reach EXP based on DEQM activity flown on Dec 31 have to wait until the middle of Feb to see their status update!
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And it will be difficult for we 125k-ers to be sure we made it to our 4 extra eVIPs if the counters have reset!
And it will be difficult for we 125k-ers to be sure we made it to our 4 extra eVIPs if the counters have reset!
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#291
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Umm, read the details. AA will post all the activity from 9/2 - 12/15 AFTER the promo is over, generally within a few weeks, but AA states 6-8 weeks. Thus, you will not see the credits for this promo until late this year, early next year.
I also registered in flight BOS-DFW and am curious whether I'll get credit for that flight, only time will tell...
I also registered in flight BOS-DFW and am curious whether I'll get credit for that flight, only time will tell...
#292
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If you are talking about measurable dilution of benefits, that is not so clear. Take this year, for example. They ran the same promotion last year and we had, of course, the Chicken Littles talking about the massive influx and the reduced upgrades. A few have even seen upgrades reduced. One poster competes will all of his/her office for the same flights...and they got EXP via AADER (or DBEQM this year, don't recall). So, it has happened.
But, the majority of people posting here have not noted much change in upgrade percentages, and certainly no reduction in SWU success. So, why is it "ignorant" to assume that the same program this year would produce the same effects? Actually, seems "ignorant" at assume otherwise.
Gravity is empirical, and not proven. If I throw this ball into the air enough times...maybe one time it won't return to earth.
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It sounds like the wording for Jan 9 is just there to make their lives easier afterwards and prevent forgetful people from giving them headaches down the road.
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Also, the notion of elite dilution doesn't take into account the # of people who have drastically reduced their flying b/c of the economic situation and thus will not requalify for status.
Furthermore, mileage/status runners don't represent the majority of the population. Many people (myself included) do not fly simply to get status/benefits. I fly b/c of my job and if I changed careers tomorrow and did not need to spend several days a month on an airplane, I wouldn't fly simply to maintain EXP status.
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I called AA several days ago to ask this same question (after not getting a definitive response here on the boards). They say it will nominally take 6--8 weeks for the double miles to post, but that it should take sooner and that the miles should count for this year's elite qualification. More importantly, for ELTRW, the January 9 deadline is just to prevent people from calling in April saying they flew but just never thought to check their miles until now and to do some retroactive magic to give them the rewards. The lady told me that ELTRW was designed with DBLEQ in mind and even if you fly on Dec 15, the double miles should post and count towards your count for ELTRW. If it doesn't, call them up and they'll gladly fix it right away, as long as you do it _before_ January 9.
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I called AA several days ago to ask this same question (after not getting a definitive response here on the boards). They say it will nominally take 6--8 weeks for the double miles to post, but that it should take sooner and that the miles should count for this year's elite qualification. More importantly, for ELTRW, the January 9 deadline is just to prevent people from calling in April saying they flew but just never thought to check their miles until now and to do some retroactive magic to give them the rewards. The lady told me that ELTRW was designed with DBLEQ in mind and even if you fly on Dec 15, the double miles should post and count towards your count for ELTRW. If it doesn't, call them up and they'll gladly fix it right away, as long as you do it _before_ January 9.
It sounds like the wording for Jan 9 is just there to make their lives easier afterwards and prevent forgetful people from giving them headaches down the road.
It sounds like the wording for Jan 9 is just there to make their lives easier afterwards and prevent forgetful people from giving them headaches down the road.
Thanks for posting! I've added a quote of your post to the OP for easy reference.
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Love DEQM but my Head Hurts
I've read the rules and it looks like based on my travels by the end of the year I may hit EPLT. Here's what I don't fully understand.
I almost always have to fly STX-SJU to get to and from wherever I'm going.
STX-SJU 94 actual miles which gets me 500. During the DEQM period do I get 688 miles (500 min + 98 actual X2 for DEQM) or 1000 (2 X 500)?
Since they don't post the DEQM from earlier this year online I can't see how it's figured.
Thanks.
I almost always have to fly STX-SJU to get to and from wherever I'm going.
STX-SJU 94 actual miles which gets me 500. During the DEQM period do I get 688 miles (500 min + 98 actual X2 for DEQM) or 1000 (2 X 500)?
Since they don't post the DEQM from earlier this year online I can't see how it's figured.
Thanks.
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1000. It's just the same as AUS-DFW, which is 183 base miles.
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just wish
EXP would go forward to 2012...already have the next year taken care of and within a couple of weeks will have another 100K...got to love those trips to India.
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I've read the rules and it looks like based on my travels by the end of the year I may hit EPLT. Here's what I don't fully understand.
I almost always have to fly STX-SJU to get to and from wherever I'm going.
STX-SJU 94 actual miles which gets me 500. During the DEQM period do I get 688 miles (500 min + 98 actual X2 for DEQM) or 1000 (2 X 500)?
Since they don't post the DEQM from earlier this year online I can't see how it's figured.
Thanks.
I almost always have to fly STX-SJU to get to and from wherever I'm going.
STX-SJU 94 actual miles which gets me 500. During the DEQM period do I get 688 miles (500 min + 98 actual X2 for DEQM) or 1000 (2 X 500)?
Since they don't post the DEQM from earlier this year online I can't see how it's figured.
Thanks.
Non-elites would only get 94+94= 188 EQM.