On 2-class, standby for 3-class, questions

 
Old Jun 6, 2009, 8:37 pm
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On 2-class, standby for 3-class, questions

I am flying SAN-LAX-MIA next week. I plan to standby for an earlier flight on both segments. On LAX-MIA, my ticket is booked in P, the flight is F and Y. The flight I want is F, J, Y. Can I assume that I will be booked into I class if standing by? What if there are plenty of biz seats left, but no I? And, if I end up with a non-I seat, would I, in theory, be able to use miles to go from J/D to F at the airport?
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Old Jun 6, 2009, 9:51 pm
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In my experience if you buy a two class first class ticket and then try to travel on three class aircraft (standby or otherwise) you will be seated in the business class cabin.
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Old Jun 6, 2009, 11:57 pm
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There are certainly FTers who are more expert than I, but I think if you are booked in P they would let you stand by for J seats on the 3 class aircraft.

In practice, it would be almost impossible to use miles to upgrade to F once you had a confirmed seat in J in such a situation. By the time they confirmed your seat in J, others would have been upgraded to F. Even if F seats were still empty the GAs would probably not be willing to take the time to process the upgrade for you.

In very, very few exceptional cases, a GA might just give you an op-up in such a situation, but I would put your chances at 5% or so.

Be happy that you are probably moving from F in a 757 to J on a 777, which is a major upgrade in itself.
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Old Jun 7, 2009, 12:07 am
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Originally Posted by dankyone
There are certainly FTers who are more expert than I, but I think if you are booked in P they would let you stand by for J seats on the 3 class aircraft.

In practice, it would be almost impossible to use miles to upgrade to F once you had a confirmed seat in J in such a situation. By the time they confirmed your seat in J, others would have been upgraded to F. Even if F seats were still empty the GAs would probably not be willing to take the time to process the upgrade for you.

In very, very few exceptional cases, a GA might just give you an op-up in such a situation, but I would put your chances at 5% or so.

Be happy that you are probably moving from F in a 757 to J on a 777, which is a major upgrade in itself.
Sounds like you're right except for the fact that I'd rather an aisle on a 757 than a middle on a 777. And I'm also curious how the inventories match up, as most of the routes I fly are exclusively two class or exclusively three class, and this is the rare instance I've purchased F as opposed to upgrading with miles.
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Old Jun 7, 2009, 12:43 am
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I'd take a look at your fare rules, as most trans-con 2-cabin F fares explicitly forbid travel on three cabin planes. See for example KUPP7MZ (SAN-MIA). Perhaps you'd get lucky in that the agent wont look at the rules, but they could.

THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 5:13 pm
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I apologize for digging up an old thread, but I've had trouble finding an answer to a similar but reverse question regarding standby from 3 Cabin J to 2 Cabin F.

For example, on JFK-SFO, there are several 3 cabin and 2 cabin flights. 2 Cabins book Y/F (not Y/J like Caribbean 2 cabins, for example) and the 3 cabins book Y/J/F, of course. If I'm booked into J on a 3 cabin, and try to standby for an earlier 2 cabin flight, will I be able to standby into F on the 2 cabin?

Of note, I'm looking at booking an award. So trying to figure out if I can stand by from U on a 3 cabin into (hopefully) into a 2 cabin's F, rather than Y.

Thanks for any insight and happy happy holidays!
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Old Dec 23, 2013, 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by awpeters
I apologize for digging up an old thread, but I've had trouble finding an answer to a similar but reverse question regarding standby from 3 Cabin J to 2 Cabin F.

For example, on JFK-SFO, there are several 3 cabin and 2 cabin flights. 2 Cabins book Y/F (not Y/J like Caribbean 2 cabins, for example) and the 3 cabins book Y/J/F, of course. If I'm booked into J on a 3 cabin, and try to standby for an earlier 2 cabin flight, will I be able to standby into F on the 2 cabin?

Of note, I'm looking at booking an award. So trying to figure out if I can stand by from U on a 3 cabin into (hopefully) into a 2 cabin's F, rather than Y.

Thanks for any insight and happy happy holidays!
Well, technically, I don't think you'll have a problem: at any point when Z becomes available you can just switch. So, if there are seats left at the last minute, presumably they'll open up all inventories.
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