Refund of award late booking fee (consolidated)
Can someone give me some advice on how to escalate this issue?
I booked an AA reward ticket within 3 weeks of travel, and paid the extortion $75 late booking fee. However, my flight was canceled due to impending Hurricane Ike. I was unable to rebook a departure for many days and therefore canceled the trip altogether. I understand that the $75 is 'not refundable' under normal circumstances, but it seems there should be a caveat for flights that AA chooses to cancel. All of the other majors waited until later in the afternoon before canceling their flights. The airport remained open and operating for hours after my flight was scheduled to depart. What's particularly irritating, is this is a fee for a service that has absolutely no actual cost to AA. Baggage Fees make sense to me, since they represent an actual cost to the airline. And charge me for the awful turkey sandwich should I be desperate enough to eat it. But this is just an example of the airline figuring out a way to stick it to you and devalue the miles I earned before there was such a fee (yes, that long ago). I have been bounced from Advantage reservations to Advantage Customer Service like a ping pong ball. An email from Advantage Customer Service contained the boilerplate 'the $75 is non-refundable' answer. My request to escalate the issue was ignored. Does anyone have a suggestion of what I can do to try to escalate this? Thank you. |
Originally Posted by mardigras
(Post 11129774)
What's particularly irritating, is this is a fee for a service that has absolutely no actual cost to AA.
You might try disputing the charge with your credit card company. They may not rule in your favor, but there's no harm in trying. |
Originally Posted by mardigras
(Post 11129774)
Can someone give me some advice on how to escalate this issue?
I booked an AA reward ticket within 3 weeks of travel, and paid the extortion $75 late booking fee. However, my flight was canceled due to impending Hurricane Ike. I was unable to rebook a departure for many days and therefore canceled the trip altogether. I understand that the $75 is 'not refundable' under normal circumstances, but it seems there should be a caveat for flights that AA chooses to cancel. All of the other majors waited until later in the afternoon before canceling their flights. The airport remained open and operating for hours after my flight was scheduled to depart. What's particularly irritating, is this is a fee for a service that has absolutely no actual cost to AA. Baggage Fees make sense to me, since they represent an actual cost to the airline. And charge me for the awful turkey sandwich should I be desperate enough to eat it. But this is just an example of the airline figuring out a way to stick it to you and devalue the miles I earned before there was such a fee (yes, that long ago). I have been bounced from Advantage reservations to Advantage Customer Service like a ping pong ball. An email from Advantage Customer Service contained the boilerplate 'the $75 is non-refundable' answer. My request to escalate the issue was ignored. Does anyone have a suggestion of what I can do to try to escalate this? Thank you. |
Originally Posted by bdemaria
(Post 11129832)
:confused: The fee for an "expedited" award ticket is either 50 or 100. Why did you have to pay 75.00?
*When multiple awards are claimed at the same time, each additional award is subject to a $25 charge. |
Blumie that was my point - there is no incremental cost to the airlines for booking within 21 days vs greater than 21 days in advance of the flight. This is a fee that never used to exist and in fact was, for me, the best perk of the FF programs - last minute travel.
When I booked this flight, the charge was $75. I suppose it must have gone up in the past couple of months? Does anyone know how to escalate this within AA? Thanks. |
While I can't offer you any details how to escalate, if this fee was charged for you (a SINGLE award ticket), you can at least get back a portion of the money.
The fee is supposed to be: $50 for travel ticketed 20 - 7 days prior to departure, and $100 for travel ticketed 6 days to 2 hours prior to departure Source (as already provided by bdemaria): http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?...ardDetails.jsp |
Originally Posted by mardigras
(Post 11130208)
Blumie that was my point - there is no incremental cost to the airlines for booking within 21 days vs greater than 21 days in advance of the flight. This is a fee that never used to exist
and in fact was, for me, the best perk of the FF programs - last minute travel. |
It seems pretty simple to me. If AA canceled the flight, for whatever reason, they owe you a complete refund, no questions asked -- it's in the conditions of carriage. If you purchase a non-refundable ticket, and they cancel the flight, they will refund the ticket price. So describing this booking fee as "non-refundable" is not an excuse.
It's very disappointing that AA is not cooperating on this matter. As for the best way to escalate this? I would try disputing the charge with the credit card company, though they tend to be in bed with the airlines and it's usually very difficult to dispute an airline charge in the absence of fraud. Then maybe small claims court. |
Originally Posted by Steve M
(Post 11130293)
It's been around for awhile. Actually, I think it's been around since the days of paper award tickets. That was in fact the reason for it: ticketing got moved to the front of the work queue and they were sent out via overnight express - that's why there was a charge. Once they went to electronic ticketing, they just kept the fee in place as a source of revenue even though the extra cost went away.
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Originally Posted by mardigras
(Post 11130208)
Blumie that was my point - there is no incremental cost to the airlines for booking within 21 days vs greater than 21 days in advance of the flight. This is a fee that never used to exist and in fact was, for me, the best perk of the FF programs - last minute travel.
Originally Posted by mardigras
(Post 11130208)
When I booked this flight, the charge was $75. I suppose it must have gone up in the past couple of months?
Originally Posted by mardigras
(Post 11130208)
Does anyone know how to escalate this within AA? Thanks.
However, you were unable to take the trip due to Hurricane Ike. Speak to AA Customer Service and focus on getting the $$ back b/c of this event, not b/c you think the fee is unfair. You had an option to not book the award ticket when you were told about the fee. I'll be honest, I don't think it will work. |
OK, thanks for the feedback. It looks like the fee was $100 and the point about it being an irritating fee was just me venting. I do not remember paying this fee 20 years ago; perhaps it was waived for Elite members. But obviously I agreed to pay it as part of the deal. However, I would feel less justification to ask for the refund, if the airline had actually incurred a cost associated with that fee. I really find it amazing that they would feel justified in not refunding it. They cancelled the flight.
And yes, Steve M, I agree - Southwest has a great program and a great sense of customer service. I also think that Continental's Elite program is eons better than AA or DL. I really avoid AA when I can, and after this, I hope I can avoid giving them another penny. Thanks again to all. Perhaps I will try customer service one last time. It's funny how everyone I speak to on the phone agrees with me, but says they cannot personally handle it. |
Originally Posted by Blumie
(Post 11129792)
You might try disputing the charge with your credit card company. They may not rule in your favor, but there's no harm in trying.
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Originally Posted by mardigras
(Post 11132533)
I really find it amazing that they would feel justified in not refunding it.
It's funny how everyone I speak to on the phone agrees with me, but says they cannot personally handle it. Cheers. |
Originally Posted by mardigras
(Post 11129774)
I have been bounced from Advantage reservations to Advantage Customer Service like a ping pong ball. An email from Advantage Customer Service contained the boilerplate 'the $75 is non-refundable' answer. My request to escalate the issue was ignored.
Does anyone have a suggestion of what I can do to try to escalate this? My suggestion is if this is not true you should continue your effort to receive a refund and I believe you will be successful. |
Originally Posted by Island
(Post 11133099)
This makes me think you had been accommodated on other agreeable arrangements and then decided not to make the trip. This would not make an opportunity for a refund of a service they originally provided.
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