Connecting passengers trump originating pax on airport upgrade list (-T designation)
Oct 22, 2009, 4:08 pm
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Deleting quoted post and my subsequently irrelevant question per brp's wise advice.
Don't want to muddy the waters any further.
Don't want to muddy the waters any further.
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Oct 22, 2009, 4:14 pm
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Oct 22, 2009, 4:18 pm
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Oct 22, 2009, 4:22 pm
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I think some airlines (whether casually or formally) use the terms "through" and "connecting" differently, with through narrowly used for people remaining on the same aircraft at the hub. I wonder if that's part of the confusion?
Also, "local" or "originating" is confusing - at least to passengers - because I'd never refer to myself as "originating" when I'm using the return part of a round-trip ticket.
Again, the proper definitions in AA's systems may be different from the way we use the terms. The "through" thing I hear from FA's frequently...usually in reference to "counting the through pax" after people deplane.
Also, "local" or "originating" is confusing - at least to passengers - because I'd never refer to myself as "originating" when I'm using the return part of a round-trip ticket.
Again, the proper definitions in AA's systems may be different from the way we use the terms. The "through" thing I hear from FA's frequently...usually in reference to "counting the through pax" after people deplane.
Oct 22, 2009, 4:37 pm
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I'll edit my previous posts in this thread.
Oct 22, 2009, 4:53 pm
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MIA, NYC and LA flyers benefit greatly from this.
ORD and DFW flyers are hurt by it.
ORD and DFW flyers are hurt by it.
Oct 22, 2009, 4:55 pm
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It's been in the wiki at http://www.flyerguide.com/wiki/index..._list_%28AA%29 for a long, long, long time.
Oct 22, 2009, 5:49 pm
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) by taking the morning flight - meeting in SFO and taking the last flight or the red-eye home - since the flight is same day, does that make me a through passenger?Related to what MilesToGoBeforeISleep wrote a few posts prior, if you're doing a same day MR (intentionally or unintentionally) and you were issued all your BPs previously, doesn't that make you a through/connecting passenger? In a sense, if I didn't "originate" in LAX or SFO as in checking in at their ticket counter or kiosk, going through security, etc. aren't I really just connecting there for my trip back east?
Oct 22, 2009, 5:54 pm
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Cheers.
Oct 22, 2009, 6:00 pm
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Oct 23, 2009, 2:40 am
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The connections bit is certainly true. I ended up #2 on the connecting upgrade list on a flight where I'm certain I wasn't the first to request an upgrade, the connection definitely bumped me. Now as to the other critera, I kinda doubt it. I don't think they can make it that sophisticated with the tools they use today.. As I mentioned I was #2 on that list, my wife was #1. She is PLT, on the same PNR as me. Had 1 seat opened, they'd have upgraded her over me. Figure that one out.
Oct 23, 2009, 3:13 am
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The upgrade list order is:
UPG1T - EXP Through Traveler
UPG1 - EXP Local Traveler
UPG2T - PLT Through Traveler
UPG2 - PLT Local Traveler
UPG3T - GLD Through Traveler
UPG3 - GLD Local Traveler
UPGT - Non-Elite Through Traveler
UPG - Non-Elite Local Traveler
UPGET - Employee Through Traveler
UPGE - Employee Local Traveler
If two EXP are on the upgrade list as through (T) travelers, then check-in time should determine the order.
UPG1T - EXP Through Traveler
UPG1 - EXP Local Traveler
UPG2T - PLT Through Traveler
UPG2 - PLT Local Traveler
UPG3T - GLD Through Traveler
UPG3 - GLD Local Traveler
UPGT - Non-Elite Through Traveler
UPG - Non-Elite Local Traveler
UPGET - Employee Through Traveler
UPGE - Employee Local Traveler
If two EXP are on the upgrade list as through (T) travelers, then check-in time should determine the order.
Oct 23, 2009, 9:46 am
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It is a well accepted fact (Here on FT, at least) that ORD-DFW originating fares are usually higher than connecting through them to the same destination. Sure, it may be cheaper sometimes, but when there is less competition out of DFW/ORD, the fares will jump up.
Oct 23, 2009, 10:06 am
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It's been in the wiki at http://www.flyerguide.com/wiki/index..._list_%28AA%29 for a long, long, long time.
However, I'm not 100% certain that this has been explicitly discussed here previously. It may be buried somewhere in the main thread, but I searched and could not find it. So, I've added this thread to the links on the PALL List wiki page.
Oct 23, 2009, 10:53 am
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Did not clear and was placed in the same coach row with #2 (another exp) on the list. We discussed it for awhile but our only conclusion was the GA forced me to the #1 spot as he had purchased his ticket prior to my original purchase.
Thought I would add this tidbit to the general discussion even though the outcome will not change my buying habits. I will still buy inexpensive fares and request upgrades when purchasing. If the upgrades do not clear I will still buy inexpensive fares and request upgrades when purchasing.