Buy the business discount fare, or take a change on upgrades...
#1
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: DFW, UK ex-pat
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Buy the business discount fare, or take a change on upgrades...
This may be my first posting...not sure...each time I think I'm about to start 'proper' frequest flying my company chages policy or switches my projects..anyway..
I need to fly DFW-LHR, probably on 26 Dec til 30 Dec. AA are doing good Biz class fares if I hub through JFK, but I'd rather fly direct. I'm guessing that biz class is quiet during the week between Christmas & New Year, so should I just buy a coach ticket and hope to be able to use my upgrade vouchers, or bite the bullet and buy the (discounted) biz fare?
So far, I've never been able to use my upgrades (I'm Plat, but mostly seem to fly commuter flights), but do I stand more chance on these flights?
Thanks all
Pete
I need to fly DFW-LHR, probably on 26 Dec til 30 Dec. AA are doing good Biz class fares if I hub through JFK, but I'd rather fly direct. I'm guessing that biz class is quiet during the week between Christmas & New Year, so should I just buy a coach ticket and hope to be able to use my upgrade vouchers, or bite the bullet and buy the (discounted) biz fare?
So far, I've never been able to use my upgrades (I'm Plat, but mostly seem to fly commuter flights), but do I stand more chance on these flights?
Thanks all
Pete
#2
Join Date: Oct 2006
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This may be my first posting...not sure...each time I think I'm about to start 'proper' frequest flying my company chages policy or switches my projects..anyway..
I need to fly DFW-LHR, probably on 26 Dec til 30 Dec. AA are doing good Biz class fares if I hub through JFK, but I'd rather fly direct. I'm guessing that biz class is quiet during the week between Christmas & New Year, so should I just buy a coach ticket and hope to be able to use my upgrade vouchers, or bite the bullet and buy the (discounted) biz fare?
So far, I've never been able to use my upgrades (I'm Plat, but mostly seem to fly commuter flights), but do I stand more chance on these flights?
Thanks all
Pete
I need to fly DFW-LHR, probably on 26 Dec til 30 Dec. AA are doing good Biz class fares if I hub through JFK, but I'd rather fly direct. I'm guessing that biz class is quiet during the week between Christmas & New Year, so should I just buy a coach ticket and hope to be able to use my upgrade vouchers, or bite the bullet and buy the (discounted) biz fare?
So far, I've never been able to use my upgrades (I'm Plat, but mostly seem to fly commuter flights), but do I stand more chance on these flights?
Thanks all
Pete
#3
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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This may be my first posting...not sure...each time I think I'm about to start 'proper' frequest flying my company chages policy or switches my projects..anyway..
I need to fly DFW-LHR, probably on 26 Dec til 30 Dec. AA are doing good Biz class fares if I hub through JFK, but I'd rather fly direct. I'm guessing that biz class is quiet during the week between Christmas & New Year, so should I just buy a coach ticket and hope to be able to use my upgrade vouchers, or bite the bullet and buy the (discounted) biz fare?
So far, I've never been able to use my upgrades (I'm Plat, but mostly seem to fly commuter flights), but do I stand more chance on these flights?
Thanks all
Pete
I need to fly DFW-LHR, probably on 26 Dec til 30 Dec. AA are doing good Biz class fares if I hub through JFK, but I'd rather fly direct. I'm guessing that biz class is quiet during the week between Christmas & New Year, so should I just buy a coach ticket and hope to be able to use my upgrade vouchers, or bite the bullet and buy the (discounted) biz fare?
So far, I've never been able to use my upgrades (I'm Plat, but mostly seem to fly commuter flights), but do I stand more chance on these flights?
Thanks all
Pete
#4
Join Date: May 2008
Location: RDU
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Great promotions on JFK-LHR
You may want to double think that JFK-LHR run.
AA is running some great promotions on that route.
Double EQM's
Companion Fares in January 2009.
Search for them on AA.com!
I'm leaving today for LHR and instead of taking the RDU-LHR direct, I'm routing through JFK.
Good Luck
AA is running some great promotions on that route.
Double EQM's
Companion Fares in January 2009.
Search for them on AA.com!
I'm leaving today for LHR and instead of taking the RDU-LHR direct, I'm routing through JFK.
Good Luck
#5
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: London, UK
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You may want to double think that JFK-LHR run.
AA is running some great promotions on that route.
Double EQM's
Companion Fares in January 2009.
Search for them on AA.com!
I'm leaving today for LHR and instead of taking the RDU-LHR direct, I'm routing through JFK.
Good Luck
AA is running some great promotions on that route.
Double EQM's
Companion Fares in January 2009.
Search for them on AA.com!
I'm leaving today for LHR and instead of taking the RDU-LHR direct, I'm routing through JFK.
Good Luck
From aa.com:
Terms and Conditions:
AAdvantage bonus mile offer is valid on American Airlines marketed and operated nonstop flights for travel between New York/JFK or Los Angeles and London Heathrow, October 1, 2008, through December 15, 2008.
#6
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If the fare difference is competitive I would say buying Biz is the way to go. Not only are you guaranteeing business class but you have the potential for upgrading to first (if it is offered on this a/c and the fare code does not exclude it).
#7
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Also 2-3 x more Q points w/biz fares if that matters.
#8
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For all the people remarking 'I don't know why the won't let me buy an upgrade at the gate rather than let those seats fly empty!' this is your answer - people think about their luck and buy the cheaper fare in perpetual hope.
#9
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: DFW, UK ex-pat
Programs: AA PlatExec, Bonvoy Plat
Posts: 84
Thanks for all the replies!
It would be using the '500 ml upgrade stickers', I didn't realise these weren't valid on international flights (like I said, I'm a bit new to this).
I have 48k miles and due for renew in Feb (I got on the AA Plat using the 'challenge' earlier this year), I'm not sure if they're any use for the flights.
I do think that I'd at least get a free companion ticket for the JFK-LHR leg, so again, I guess it would bne good to have that as a business ticket, it's just hubbing through JFK is a PITA, especially when there's a chance of poor weather. THe price difference is a lot though, $3.7k for DFW direct, or $2.3k for coach to JFK, then Biz (I) to LHR.
I guess I'll book the business tickets from JFK if it seems a good deal.
Thanks again
Pete
It would be using the '500 ml upgrade stickers', I didn't realise these weren't valid on international flights (like I said, I'm a bit new to this).
I have 48k miles and due for renew in Feb (I got on the AA Plat using the 'challenge' earlier this year), I'm not sure if they're any use for the flights.
I do think that I'd at least get a free companion ticket for the JFK-LHR leg, so again, I guess it would bne good to have that as a business ticket, it's just hubbing through JFK is a PITA, especially when there's a chance of poor weather. THe price difference is a lot though, $3.7k for DFW direct, or $2.3k for coach to JFK, then Biz (I) to LHR.
I guess I'll book the business tickets from JFK if it seems a good deal.
Thanks again
Pete
#10
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 44,574
Thanks for all the replies!
It would be using the '500 ml upgrade stickers', I didn't realise these weren't valid on international flights (like I said, I'm a bit new to this).
I have 48k miles and due for renew in Feb (I got on the AA Plat using the 'challenge' earlier this year), I'm not sure if they're any use for the flights.
I do think that I'd at least get a free companion ticket for the JFK-LHR leg, so again, I guess it would bne good to have that as a business ticket, it's just hubbing through JFK is a PITA, especially when there's a chance of poor weather. THe price difference is a lot though, $3.7k for DFW direct, or $2.3k for coach to JFK, then Biz (I) to LHR.
I guess I'll book the business tickets from JFK if it seems a good deal.
Thanks again
Pete
It would be using the '500 ml upgrade stickers', I didn't realise these weren't valid on international flights (like I said, I'm a bit new to this).
I have 48k miles and due for renew in Feb (I got on the AA Plat using the 'challenge' earlier this year), I'm not sure if they're any use for the flights.
I do think that I'd at least get a free companion ticket for the JFK-LHR leg, so again, I guess it would bne good to have that as a business ticket, it's just hubbing through JFK is a PITA, especially when there's a chance of poor weather. THe price difference is a lot though, $3.7k for DFW direct, or $2.3k for coach to JFK, then Biz (I) to LHR.
I guess I'll book the business tickets from JFK if it seems a good deal.
Thanks again
Pete
Is the company prepared to pay for the non stop fare of $3.7k ? if so, then why worry about it; just book the non stop flights.
Personally, I would go via JFK since JFK has daytime services to london whilst the DFW-LHR is overnight ( urgh )
To upgrade both ways from economy to business using miles would be either 50k miles + USD700 if booked in economy other than in B or Y class or would be 30k miles if in either B or Y.
Dave
#11
Join Date: Apr 2001
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Choose American Airlines for your next trip between New York/JFK or Los Angeles and London Heathrow, and you will earn double AAdvantage miles when you purchase select First Class, Business Class, or Economy Class fares (booked in F, A, J, D, I, R, Y, B, H, K, M, V, S, or N). Just book your trip now, register prior to travel, and fly by December 15, 2008.
since it's a business trip, the upgrade option is probably buying a B fare and using 10k miles each way with no copay.
that said, if the I fare for Business Class looks attractive, probably best to go ahead and buy it. then if the weather is bad on travel day at JFK, go to DFW early and see if they'll switch you to the nonstop...
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A discounted business fare is usually an "I" fare and thus likely not upgradeable.
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