why can't AA compete on DFW - DCA (or RIC or IAD)???
AA is making it d*mn near impossible for me to be a loyal customer. They are turning up DOUBLE the price of US & DL for the DFW - RIC route for 7/21 evening - 7/23 evening. Look, I realize that FL will nearly always undercut AA, but this is getting absurd. I switched from flying into RIC to DCA b/c was able to get <$350 fares for the Monday night - Wednesday night turnaround, but now even those lightly-traveled days are only showing absurdly high fares.
Yes, fares must go up, but why can't AA match its legacy competitors??? |
You're paying a premium for frequent, non-stops flights between these cities.
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IF AA could sell 90 seats at $600, why should they try to sell 120 seats at $400 instead?
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Originally Posted by nd_eric_77
(Post 9994931)
... why can't AA match its legacy competitors???
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Originally Posted by wanaflyforless
(Post 9995007)
IF AA could sell 90 seats at $600, why should they try to sell 120 seats at $400 instead?
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Originally Posted by nd_eric_77
(Post 9995109)
I suspect that they aren't selling anywhere near 90 seats at $600. I would be willing to bet that a large number of these seats are being sold on GSA contracts (eg: fare class of full - "Y", but paying Q price per seat).
Cheers, -Andrew |
Originally Posted by nd_eric_77
(Post 9995109)
I suspect that they aren't selling anywhere near 90 seats at $600. I would be willing to bet that a large number of these seats are being sold on GSA contracts (eg: fare class of full - "Y", but paying Q price per seat).
I continue to feel the same way about fare price complaints by DFW based flyers now as I did last year. Having an AA hub in your city gets you non-stop service to more cities than you otherwise would with more frequency than you otherwise would. You are connected to more international cities than you otherwise would. You have better airport facilities than you otherwise would. You pay a premium for this. If you value cost over convenience, fly another carrier out ouf DFW and deal with needing to connect. You cannot reasonably expect AA to offer you all the destinations and frequencies that it does at the same or near the same price as its competitors. |
Originally Posted by nd_eric_77
(Post 9995109)
I suspect that they aren't selling anywhere near 90 seats at $600. I would be willing to bet that a large number of these seats are being sold on GSA contracts (eg: fare class of full - "Y", but paying Q price per seat).
DFW-DCA YCA Unrestricted Govt. Fare $458.00 each way DFW-RIC YCA Unrestricted Govt. Fare $280.00 each way DFW-IAD YCA Unrestricted Govt. Fare $410.00 each way In all cases, AA holds the contract. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ In any case, I didn't state AA is selling 90 seats at $600. Notice the IF. I was offering the numbers as an example only. The point is AA believes they will make more money at current higher fares than if they were to lower them. Why should AA lower the fares? You tell me.... |
Since flights are full, AA doesn't have to match its competitors on unprofitable fare levels. Unfortunately, the OP is going to have to fly other airlines to get a reasonable fare.
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Originally Posted by wanaflyforless
(Post 9995398)
In any case, I didn't state AA is selling 90 seats at $600. Notice the IF. I was offering the numbers as an example only.
The point is AA believes they will make more money at current higher fares than if they were to lower them. C'est la vie, when you've got a stack of F100's and a lot of Federal work around, it's the way it goes. Cheers, -Andrew |
Indeed, you do pay a premium for living in a hub without much competition. SFO-DCA flights that connect through DFW are often quite competitively priced on AA and generally cheaper than other carriers... sometimes under $200 r/t before tax.
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Based on its loads and yields, it appears that AA is competing quite well.
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It's probably much cheaper to fly AUS-DCA or vice versa. :)
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK
(Post 9996411)
It's probably much cheaper to fly AUS-DCA or vice versa. :)
AUS-DCA was $325 and is now $450 (each way) - that's a 38.5% increase... I imagine the GSA contract will go up a similar amount as well. |
Originally Posted by nd_eric_77
(Post 9994931)
AA is making it d*mn near impossible for me to be a loyal customer. They are turning up DOUBLE the price of US & DL for the DFW - RIC route for 7/21 evening - 7/23 evening. Look, I realize that FL will nearly always undercut AA, but this is getting absurd. I switched from flying into RIC to DCA b/c was able to get <$350 fares for the Monday night - Wednesday night turnaround, but now even those lightly-traveled days are only showing absurdly high fares.
Yes, fares must go up, but why can't AA match its legacy competitors??? If AA doesn't think it is selling enough seats, it will lower the fare or dump the flights. |
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