what is "crew refusal" ? (xld flight)
Aa3020/22jun
American Eagle San 256p Ct 1 Lax T4 44l 345p 1fx Cancel San -lax -acct<crew Refusal . S *0007 3san/etd2200 Svcg *2339 |
haha thats funny
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I don't know, but I got a call from AA last night (morning) at 3:00. Doing my best Hillary impersonation, I answered the phone, and the rep told me my flight at 8:20 CLT=> DFW was delayed until 11:00 and gave me options to rebook. I asked the reason why and he said "looks like a crew strike". I know he mis-spoke, but I wonder if that was the same thing as "crew refusal".
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That's odd, but my guess is that either the Captain refused to fly the airplane with a mechanical or the crew chose to fly their contract by refusing to "do favors" for the company.
I was on a flight once where the mechanics wrote off the mechanical yet the Captain felt unsafe to fly the plane. That flight eventually canceled. And on several flights crew members had refused to waive their legalities by refusing to work flights that would extend their duty day or coming to work early without meeting minimum rest requirements. |
So I wonder how this pans out regarding compensation and changes without any penalties and fees
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Pilot in Command has the final say on accepting an aircraft.
If he feels the aircraft is not safe to fly he is allowed to refuse to fly it. |
Originally Posted by jrhone
(Post 9929856)
Pilot in Command has the final say on accepting an aircraft.
If he feels the aircraft is not safe to fly he is allowed to refuse to fly it. And rightly so. The lives of everybody on board are his/her responsibility during the course of the flight. |
Originally Posted by jrhone
(Post 9929856)
Pilot in Command has the final say on accepting an aircraft.
If he feels the aircraft is not safe to fly he is allowed to refuse to fly it. http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...ed-pilot_N.htm |
Apparently the aircraft was being worked on for over 6 hrs, and the crew eventually called fatigued around 2200. Operations coded the cancellation as a crew refusal.
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Originally Posted by mvoight
(Post 9929915)
Maybe he had a union related dispute, like this United pilot
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...ed-pilot_N.htm |
Originally Posted by mvoight
(Post 9929915)
Maybe he had a union related dispute, like this United pilot
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...ed-pilot_N.htm |
Originally Posted by AEpilot76
(Post 9930002)
Maybe that pilot found out he was one of 950 being furloughed (a large portion of those 950 to be furloughed again for the 2nd time since 9/11)
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Originally Posted by mvoight
(Post 9930033)
The story seemed to indicate he was caught, by another crew, wearing his hat, and he was supposed to not wear it as a sign of union unity.
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Originally Posted by AEpilot76
(Post 9930045)
how stupid
A hat? X number of passengers delayed/inconvenienced/Etc. over a hat? If this is indeed true, then perhaps union leadership(s) should pull their heads out of .........Upton Sinclairs' " The Jungle" and go back to Mother Goose's " The Goose that laid the Golden Eggs", with a quick check of the "Wall Street Jounal", specifically spot oil prices, and some of our leading indicators, and then Google "Turnip,Blood from". Flame away if you must-You can't kill me and you can't eat me. |
Originally Posted by Dallas49er
(Post 9931297)
Ditto.
A hat? X number of passengers delayed/inconvenienced/Etc. over a hat? If this is indeed true, then perhaps union leadership(s) should pull their heads out of .........Upton Sinclairs' " The Jungle" and go back to Mother Goose's " The Goose that laid the Golden Eggs", with a quick check of the "Wall Street Jounal", specifically spot oil prices, and some of our leading indicators, and then Google "Turnip,Blood from". Flame away if you must-You can't kill me and you can't eat me. THE ONLY THING A UNION GUARANTEES YOU IS A BILL!!! --PP |
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