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Old Jun 6, 2008, 7:01 pm
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Originally Posted by ijgordon
Ummm...what makes you think that?
It's happened to me once. I could take Y and the small difference between F and Y as a refund, or wait hours for an F seat.
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Old Jun 6, 2008, 7:20 pm
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I've Seen This Happen on Delta

Last summer, my wife and I were on a DL flight JFK-FRA, sitting in a half-empty Business Elite cabin on so-called PMU upgrades waiting to push back, when we were told by the flight crew that 10 passengers were "stuck in security" and we were going to wait for them. 30 minutes later, these passengers start to stream on board, and just as the last two, a man and a woman, step on board, the button is pushed and the front door begins to close. These two slip into seats 3 C and E; not even 5 seconds passed before a no nonsense middle aged female FA rousted them and consigned them to stools and ropes (i.e., Delta economy).
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Old Jun 6, 2008, 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by jpzeller
So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm sort-of-comfortably ensconcsed in seat 10D on AA 98 ORD-LHR prior to take-off, and a guy sits down in 10B, then moves to empty 10A following take-off.

When the obviously experienced FA comes by to take entree orders, he asks the other passenger his name - "Evans" - and politely indicates that that name isn't on his list.

"Oh, I bought a $500 upgrade at the gate [obviously confusing AA with UA]" - his boarding pass, of course, showed 21-something, and he was then politely escorted back to his seat.

The FA later told me "this happens all the time," which actually sort of amazed me.

Does this type of thing EVER work? (I was reminded of this by the parallel thread regarding scamming into the AC for free.)
Don't you just *love* people who think they're so special?!
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Old Jun 6, 2008, 7:56 pm
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Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge
Always thought the sneaking into F/J was more of a myth. However, on a Wednesday very delayed JFK/MIA flight a pax in a very nonchallant manner sits down in F. FA immediately knows what is up and the man is escorted to his proper cabin and seat. Are people really that dumb!
Why is that dumb? If it worked, he would have flown F. But he got caught and all that happened is he flew his original seat.

Unless there is a consequence for this, people will continue to do it.
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Old Jun 6, 2008, 8:55 pm
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Originally Posted by jpzeller
So, a couple of weeks ago, I'm sort-of-comfortably ensconcsed in seat 10D on AA 98 ORD-LHR prior to take-off, and a guy sits down in 10B, then moves to empty 10A following take-off.

Have to ask the OP, if as indicated after the guy moves..then it would appear that both seats 10A and 10B are empty..so did you stay in the center 10D or move over?
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Old Jun 6, 2008, 9:51 pm
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Originally Posted by FrmAEattendant
Why doesn't AA just add that to the FA's credit card machine...much like Amtrak has onboard their trains.......would cut down on the cheating real quick
You'd think since HA can charge $10 for a digiplayer with the cc machine, AA could figure out how to charge $1000 seat upgrade on the spot.
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Old Jun 6, 2008, 11:14 pm
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Originally Posted by LAXjoe
But then, remember the old lady in the original movie "Airport," played by the incomparable Helen Hayes, she would sneak on the plane and travel the world for free? It was kind of cute...
Been awhile since I've seen the movie, but for her help with the on board bomber, didn't the airline award her a lifetime free travel pass?
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Old Jun 6, 2008, 11:19 pm
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That's right--and it was a lifetime of First Class travel!
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Old Jun 6, 2008, 11:44 pm
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Obviously all of these stories are about people who got caught trying to take a seat in a higher class of travel than entitled to. If they hadn't been caught nobody would ever know about it, and the incident wouldn't be reported here. We have no way of knowing how many people actually get away with this sort of thing. For all we know, there may be a large number.
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Old Jun 7, 2008, 12:01 am
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Originally Posted by stevenshev
Unfortunately, contract law doesn't work that way - fails for lack of consideration on the part of the passenger. There's a lovely thread in OMNI right now on ridiculous requests for undue compensation like that, if you want details.

Note to Moderators: The following comments are not directed personally to the above poster but to his post.


What is ridiculous is the idea that a passenger on a coach ticket can walk into F and the airline cannot collect a cent for it.

For those using the internet as a replacement for legal advice, Google, Yahoo or Findlaw any of the following terms:
Conversion;

Quasi Contract;

Unjust Enrichment.
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Old Jun 7, 2008, 11:38 am
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Flew DFW-ORD-CDG coach and the guy next to me said he was moving up to J so that he could get a nice meal and some much needed rest... when I told him that they would see that he wasn't on the manifest and send him straight back he said "don't worry, I do this all of the time.... they (I guess the FA's) know me." He never came back. At least I got an empty seat next to me on that flight

On a side note... sneaking into the AC is unbelievably easy. I would never do it... that's stealing in my opinion.... but I know that it can be done at any AC on any given day if you know the trick. Sorry Jetsfan.... don't PM me.
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Old Jun 7, 2008, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by moldavian
On a side note... sneaking into the AC is unbelievably easy. I would never do it... that's stealing in my opinion.... but I know that it can be done at any AC on any given day if you know the trick.
Well, go ahead and post the trick.
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Old Jun 7, 2008, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by SJOGuy
3) Kramer makes mention of taking George to the airport for a flight to Cuba to check out a prospect for the Yankees. Travel embargo, anyone?
There is (or at least was a few years ago) service from JFK-Cuba. You just had to have the proper license from the US OFAC to get on it.
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Old Jun 7, 2008, 10:43 pm
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Originally Posted by SquareDanceGuy
Well, go ahead and post the trick.
Please don't.
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Old Jun 7, 2008, 11:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Landing Gear
Note to Moderators: The following comments are not directed personally to the above poster but to his post.


What is ridiculous is the idea that a passenger on a coach ticket can walk into F and the airline cannot collect a cent for it.

For those using the internet as a replacement for legal advice, Google, Yahoo or Findlaw any of the following terms:
Conversion;

Quasi Contract;

Unjust Enrichment.
Agreed wholeheartedly. If you wilfully take something that is not yours you are liable to the rightful owner for the fair market value of that product.
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