2008 Route Cuts / Changes etc.: Check here for updates (consolidated)
May 28, 2008, 2:15 pm
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San Juan non-stops to MCO, FLL, BWI, EWR, LAX, and IAD end in September.
May 28, 2008, 2:50 pm
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Been wondering which A300 flights are being cut (and how many a/c going out of service). MCO would be one route. The question is are these primary cargo routes (which cheap fares often onboard) now profitable with today's oil prices and the inefficient a/c that the A300s are?
May 28, 2008, 3:04 pm
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Been wondering which A300 flights are being cut (and how many a/c going out of service). MCO would be one route. The question is are these primary cargo routes (which cheap fares often onboard) now profitable with today's oil prices and the inefficient a/c that the A300s are?
Out of Orlando, this was never a primary cargo route.
It should be noted though, that while three A300s are leaving the fleet, the remaining 31 A300s will be able to fly the entire current A300 schedule. AA only has 27 A300s flying in one day. Of course, reliability problems can create trouble.
May 28, 2008, 3:13 pm
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San Juan non-stops to MCO, FLL, BWI, EWR, LAX, and IAD end in September.
These are mostly routes that have heavy competition...
MCO can't be profitable flying with R/T tickets hovering around $160 all-in. FLL is the same story. EWR is COs fortress hub, the EWR flight was inherited from Eastern in the 80s. BWI and IAD are a bit more surprising, however, United has stepped up competition on that one. LAX seems to be always full in peak season, but as we all know, it's just difficult to run a 3386 mile flight (longer than BOS-LHR and almost as long as JFK-LHR) charging domestic fares.
These are mostly routes that have heavy competition...
MCO can't be profitable flying with R/T tickets hovering around $160 all-in. FLL is the same story. EWR is COs fortress hub, the EWR flight was inherited from Eastern in the 80s. BWI and IAD are a bit more surprising, however, United has stepped up competition on that one. LAX seems to be always full in peak season, but as we all know, it's just difficult to run a 3386 mile flight (longer than BOS-LHR and almost as long as JFK-LHR) charging domestic fares.
May 28, 2008, 4:00 pm
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AA will be moving more and more Caribbean flying to Miami. Antigua and Grenada get Miami non-stops this fall; others will follow. Eventually all the runway-capable Caribbean islands will be flown non-stop from Miami, probably within 24 months. A few islands - such as Anguilla and Beef Island - can't handle a jet, so they'll stay SJU-only.
May 28, 2008, 4:37 pm
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ORD-HNL gone
With regard to ORD-HNL going away, can someone who's been on the return trip, HNL-ORD, comment as to loads?
ORD-HNL was our preferred route to the neighbor islands going west. However on the eastbound we found e.g. LIH-LAX-ORD more convenient for the later departure relative to LIH-HNL-ORD.
I wonder if other people have made the same calculation and the plane wasn't being filled eastbound?
Also
by this maneuver,
/pbz
ORD-HNL was our preferred route to the neighbor islands going west. However on the eastbound we found e.g. LIH-LAX-ORD more convenient for the later departure relative to LIH-HNL-ORD.
I wonder if other people have made the same calculation and the plane wasn't being filled eastbound?
Also
by this maneuver,/pbz
May 28, 2008, 4:52 pm
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May 28, 2008, 5:08 pm
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We take (or should I say "took") #72 from HNL to ORD at least 4 or 5 times/year, most recently at the end of April on our way to Rome, and it was full then. I remember the load eastbound as always being full or nearly so, and a quick check of the seating map confirms this.
I talked to the EXP desk this morning, and I would like to urge all of you who are upset about the elimination of flights #72 and 73 to PLEASE contact AA and to voice your feelings here. As the agent said, AA monitors this site carefully, and we might be able to make a difference!!!
I talked to the EXP desk this morning, and I would like to urge all of you who are upset about the elimination of flights #72 and 73 to PLEASE contact AA and to voice your feelings here. As the agent said, AA monitors this site carefully, and we might be able to make a difference!!!
May 28, 2008, 5:13 pm
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With the JetStreams there were about 7-9 flights per day to LAX (or SJC).
We now have 3 Saab and one RJ round trip per day to LAX.
I wonder what we will be left with after the switch to all RJs.
San Luis Obispo is about 1 1/2 hours north of Santa Barbara (SBA) if you are driving. 3 1/2-4 hours drive from LAX.
-Mike
May 28, 2008, 5:23 pm
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May 28, 2008, 5:53 pm
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Scratch the Baltimore-San Juan cut.
After being deleted earlier today, it is showing up again.
After being deleted earlier today, it is showing up again.
May 28, 2008, 9:36 pm
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May 28, 2008, 11:22 pm
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