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● Sometimes a NGBC seat becomes inoperative; there is a possoble "reset" for the seat - see Post #39.
● The bulkhead business class footwell was originally not STCd by the FAA for item stowage; this is reported to now have been rectified, and personal items may be stowed in the bulkhead footwell.
● Items stowed in the footwell are subject to be crushed by full seat extension.
● Some find the modified "Z" position more comfortable than the full angled flat position; play with the seat controls, and then program your favorite position in.
● Sometimes a NGBC seat becomes inoperative; there is a possoble "reset" for the seat - see Post #39.
● The bulkhead business class footwell was originally not STCd by the FAA for item stowage; this is reported to now have been rectified, and personal items may be stowed in the bulkhead footwell.
● Items stowed in the footwell are subject to be crushed by full seat extension.
● Some find the modified "Z" position more comfortable than the full angled flat position; play with the seat controls, and then program your favorite position in.
Tricks and Tips: NGBC Business class seats - including reset (consolidated)
#1
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Tricks and Tips: NGBC Business class seats - including reset (consolidated)
Long Time UA flyer giving AA a try on a JFK-NRT run. I have flown on ANA with their version of the Lie flat (on an angle beds) and assume that AA are about the same?
Any way to keep from sliding down? Should I bring a pillow? Take a few sleeping pills ?
Any tips are appreciated.
Please and Thank you
Any way to keep from sliding down? Should I bring a pillow? Take a few sleeping pills ?
Any tips are appreciated.
Please and Thank you
#2
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i don't know about jfk-nrt, but have had these seats twice from us to argentina...the first time, it seemed to be slanted, but wonderful....
the second time, i felt flat after playing w/the buttons....had a pillow and blanket....worked fine for me at 6 foot 3....
enjoy....
edit to add...
i never had a company trip to japan, but others that did said, don't sweat it, you can get drunk twice on the flight...
the second time, i felt flat after playing w/the buttons....had a pillow and blanket....worked fine for me at 6 foot 3....
enjoy....
edit to add...
i never had a company trip to japan, but others that did said, don't sweat it, you can get drunk twice on the flight...
Last edited by clacko; Apr 16, 2008 at 9:08 pm
#3
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Watch your pillow
Just flew back CDG-DFW - was on the last row.
When boarding took the pillow and blanket and threw it behind the seat in the space there.
Got ready to sleep- found the blanket, but no pillow. The pillow slid under the seat. Couldn't get to it - that made me feel kind of dumb. Wasn't about to ask FA for help - doh!
Hold on to your pillow.
Live it up.
When boarding took the pillow and blanket and threw it behind the seat in the space there.
Got ready to sleep- found the blanket, but no pillow. The pillow slid under the seat. Couldn't get to it - that made me feel kind of dumb. Wasn't about to ask FA for help - doh!
Hold on to your pillow.
Live it up.
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Long Time UA flyer giving AA a try on a JFK-NRT run. I have flown on ANA with their version of the Lie flat (on an angle beds) and assume that AA are about the same?
Any way to keep from sliding down? Should I bring a pillow? Take a few sleeping pills ?
Any tips are appreciated.
Please and Thank you
Any way to keep from sliding down? Should I bring a pillow? Take a few sleeping pills ?
Any tips are appreciated.
Please and Thank you
#5
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Similarly, to the above poster's pillow incident, last week on my flight to EZE, my mobile managed to slide through the seat, through the motor mechanism and lodge itself behind the motor and against a plastic flap that covers the motor from the row behind me. It took the purser, two flight attendants, two mechanics and the ground agent to disassemble and search throughout the seat. Ultimately my phone was located, but not without great trouble.
I was very grateful for their assistance, but definitely have learned my lesson. Once the mobile is switched off, straight into my bag it goes!
I was very grateful for their assistance, but definitely have learned my lesson. Once the mobile is switched off, straight into my bag it goes!
#6
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This is just anecdotal, esp. since I've only had 4 flights on the NGBC, the longest of which was MIA-LAX, but on 2 occasions there were seatbelts jammed, and the FAs both said that there is a regular problem with things getting down into the "works" of the seat.
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Similarly, to the above poster's pillow incident, last week on my flight to EZE, my mobile managed to slide through the seat, through the motor mechanism and lodge itself behind the motor and against a plastic flap that covers the motor from the row behind me. It took the purser, two flight attendants, two mechanics and the ground agent to disassemble and search throughout the seat. Ultimately my phone was located, but not without great trouble.
I was very grateful for their assistance, but definitely have learned my lesson. Once the mobile is switched off, straight into my bag it goes!
I was very grateful for their assistance, but definitely have learned my lesson. Once the mobile is switched off, straight into my bag it goes!
#8
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I use the duvet as a seat cover. I carry some "Binder Clips" (a.k.a. as "Paper Clamps") and use 'em to secure the duvet, behind the headrest, so it stays in place. This makes a very nice clean comfortable luxurious seat.
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Quick note -- When pushing the button to set the seat for a sleeping position, push it a second time to drop the seat a little more.
An FT'er reported on the 763's NGBC seats in this thread that...
While I normally fly ORD-FRA on the 763, as a result of the MD-80 mess I flew DFW-FRA with the NGBC seats on the 777 and the differences seemed minor -- the IFE system; a glovebox-like compartment that's great for cell phones, wallets and other small items; slight difference in the work light and tray table; the inside armrest will raise to give better access to a small storage tray; a single privacy divider is permanently installed between seats; and I never did find the magazines -- but the seats seemed to be the same as reported in the rest of JonNYC's post.
An FT'er reported on the 763's NGBC seats in this thread that...
The sleep position button seems to have more than one function in that if you hold it down in the sleep position it slightly alters the seating position. If I had to guess, it feels like one position has more thigh support (for back sleepers) and the other is more dead flat-- I assume for side sleepers-- where the extra support in the thigh area would actually be a downside. And a few subtle positions in between by holding the button down for a sec. Great feature and they should document it-- I don't think it's mentioned.
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This is a problem with every lie-flat that I've sat on - LX, AA, AC, OZ, NH, SQ, you name it. If the seat is flat, and the belt is laying next to you, there's a good chance it'll fall through the sides when you reset the chair back up.
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Have a great trip!!!
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Long Time UA flyer giving AA a try on a JFK-NRT run. I have flown on ANA with their version of the Lie flat (on an angle beds) and assume that AA are about the same?
Any way to keep from sliding down? Should I bring a pillow? Take a few sleeping pills ?
Any tips are appreciated.
Please and Thank you
Any way to keep from sliding down? Should I bring a pillow? Take a few sleeping pills ?
Any tips are appreciated.
Please and Thank you
#14
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Thank you all for the great suggestions and tips.
I can only hope my upgrade to F clears but I don't see that happening, one seat left right now.
Is "Live it Up" a reference to Mental as Anything?
I can only hope my upgrade to F clears but I don't see that happening, one seat left right now.
Is "Live it Up" a reference to Mental as Anything?
#15
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Thanks Sluggo you're an asset to AA and Flyertalk. We enjoyed meeting you and may we be so lucky as to fly with you again!
Tom