Anyone ever surprised by no BUR-JFK?

 
Old May 26, 07, 3:52 pm
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Anyone ever surprised by no BUR-JFK?

I was looking at a map of LA the other day, and realized that three of the largest lots in town, and several other major entertainment businesses are minutes from BUR. Why no daily AFS 762 from BUR-JFK? I bet they could fill the premium cabins with studio execs from LA and their counterparts in NYC pretty easily.
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Learjet probably has something to do with it.
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Originally Posted by joejones View Post
Learjet probably has something to do with it.

1) A lear going transcon is going to blow. A Gulfstream, now you're talking
2) I'm sure there are plenty of people on those lots who don't have run of the company plane yet but are still allowed to pay for J and F.
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Might be some operational constraints, like too short of a runway, or terminal configuration. What is the largest plane currently using Burbank?
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AFAIK a 762 is not suitable for BUR's short runways. A ps-style 757, that could be doable.
There would have to be a fuel stop a la B6 most of the times anyways.
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Old May 26, 07, 4:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Daze View Post
Might be some operational constraints, like too short of a runway, or terminal configuration. What is the largest plane currently using Burbank?
Delta used to fly a 763 to ATL.
There is also a private 757 there regularly.
UPS and FX fly A300/A310/757/etc.
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I thought (but could be wrong) that I've seen widebodies on the FedEx ramp at BUR. I have to imagine that one of those loaded with freight weighs more than a 762 in AFS configuration.
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Originally Posted by LAX21 View Post
AFAIK a 762 is not suitable for BUR's short runways. A ps-style 757, that could be doable.
There would have to be a fuel stop a la B6 most of the times anyways.
But you are contradicting yourself when you say that DL used to fly an even larger plane all the way to ATL. And if a fuel stop were required, I bet the biz wouldn't mind BUR-BNA-JFK on a 762, lol.
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Originally Posted by Fly AA J all the way View Post
I was looking at a map of LA the other day, and realized that three of the largest lots in town, and several other major entertainment businesses are minutes from BUR. Why no daily AFS 762 from BUR-JFK? I bet they could fill the premium cabins with studio execs from LA and their counterparts in NYC pretty easily.
BUR is too close to LAX - end of story.
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Originally Posted by millionmiler View Post
BUR is too close to LAX - end of story.
How does that end the story? AA flies to DFW from both BUR and LAX (and others).
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If the winds are blowing from the E or NE (e.g. Santa Ana winds) then even the S80's to DFW have to take a fueling stop in ONT or something.

IIRC, the entertainment companies all have contracts with particular airlines, so they are already getting that business out of LAX. A single daily flight, in my opinion is unlikely to be enough to move a contract from say UA to AA.
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Originally Posted by SCChris View Post
IIRC, the entertainment companies all have contracts with particular airlines, so they are already getting that business out of LAX. A single daily flight, in my opinion is unlikely to be enough to move a contract from say UA to AA.

Yea, but if it's time to re-negotiate the contract and GE (probably the biggest company with a lot there) says "We'll go with whomever does BUR-JFK," you can bet there will be a flight up and running in no time.
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Yea, but if it's time to re-negotiate the contract and GE (probably the biggest company with a lot there) says "We'll go with whomever does BUR-JFK," you can bet there will be a flight up and running in no time.
Maybe you should start a letter-writing campaign to all the parties involved.
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Originally Posted by JonNYC View Post
Maybe you should start a letter-writing campaign to all the parties involved.
Because I live closer to LAX, that's why. I could give two piles of dog poop over whether they do this, I'm just surprised they don't, considering they used to fly AFS flights to SAN and SJC in addition to the two biggies on the West Coast.
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Originally Posted by aamilesslave View Post
How does that end the story? AA flies to DFW from both BUR and LAX (and others).

JFK is not DFW (or ORD) as far as AA goes. I'm sure that you can see the difference.
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