Transcons, and any danger of routing via SFO?
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Transcons, and any danger of routing via SFO?
I am planning a trip to NY at the end of March. On my dates, I cannot find a single C seat LAX-JFK, but I can find plenty of A seats to SFO on the 763s. I actually like the idea of F on a 763 better than J on a 762, but I'm a little concerned about a SFO connection.
Is there anyone here who chooses that route? My biggest concern, obviously, is a weather delay that would cause me to miss my flight to JFK. Should that happen, would AA reroute me directly out of LAX? What if no J seats are available, only F, would they give me one, or would they tell me no dice because it's a weather delay and they aren't really obligated to get me into a premium cabin until there is room on my original route?
Is there anyone here who chooses that route? My biggest concern, obviously, is a weather delay that would cause me to miss my flight to JFK. Should that happen, would AA reroute me directly out of LAX? What if no J seats are available, only F, would they give me one, or would they tell me no dice because it's a weather delay and they aren't really obligated to get me into a premium cabin until there is room on my original route?
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For sure AA doesn't care even slightly about putting you on a specific type of aircraft during a reroute. If you have F on a 763, and they put you in F on any other 2-class plane, they see it as equivalent. I think the chances of getting F on the 762 (due to a weather reroute) are remote.
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I am planning a trip to NY at the end of March. On my dates, I cannot find a single C seat LAX-JFK, but I can find plenty of A seats to SFO on the 763s. I actually like the idea of F on a 763 better than J on a 762, but I'm a little concerned about a SFO connection.
Is there anyone here who chooses that route? My biggest concern, obviously, is a weather delay that would cause me to miss my flight to JFK. Should that happen, would AA reroute me directly out of LAX? What if no J seats are available, only F, would they give me one, or would they tell me no dice because it's a weather delay and they aren't really obligated to get me into a premium cabin until there is room on my original route?
Is there anyone here who chooses that route? My biggest concern, obviously, is a weather delay that would cause me to miss my flight to JFK. Should that happen, would AA reroute me directly out of LAX? What if no J seats are available, only F, would they give me one, or would they tell me no dice because it's a weather delay and they aren't really obligated to get me into a premium cabin until there is room on my original route?
If things did go worng AA would do their best to get you into J, or F on a 2-class aircraft. But if may not be on the next flight if the inventory is not there. If you pressed the issue about going immediately, you'd be downgraded back to Y, not upgraded to F.
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I would not be worried about SFO. If you ar that concerned, why not route via MIA?
If things did go worng AA would do their best to get you into J, or F on a 2-class aircraft. But if may not be on the next flight if the inventory is not there. If you pressed the issue about going immediately, you'd be downgraded back to Y, not upgraded to F.
If things did go worng AA would do their best to get you into J, or F on a 2-class aircraft. But if may not be on the next flight if the inventory is not there. If you pressed the issue about going immediately, you'd be downgraded back to Y, not upgraded to F.
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The only 'negative' about SFO is their wonderfully large & elegant Admirals Club (when compare to LAX). I think I heard someplace that the SFO club had resolved some of its 'bug' issues reported here some time ago ..
Since we are trying for strange routings .. LAX-FLL-NYC or LAX-SJU-JFK or LAX-SEA-JFK or for that matter LAX-LHR-JFK (tho that might be a tad longer).
I recall both LAX and SFO have premium TSA lines so that is not a huge consideration (oops as a connection not major plus). Both locations offer pretty poor food on the concourse itself . but OP is flying upgraded so not an issue.
Since we are trying for strange routings .. LAX-FLL-NYC or LAX-SJU-JFK or LAX-SEA-JFK or for that matter LAX-LHR-JFK (tho that might be a tad longer).
I recall both LAX and SFO have premium TSA lines so that is not a huge consideration (oops as a connection not major plus). Both locations offer pretty poor food on the concourse itself . but OP is flying upgraded so not an issue.
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I appreciate the creativity, but the whole point of the creative routing was to be in a premium cabin on a widebody aircraft for the longest percentage of the flight. If that's not available, I'd just go to EWR or via BOS, or ORD on that morning 763. However, w/o any C inventory on the LAX-JFK flights, the only ways to do that are via MIA or SFO. The SJU, while clever, involves a redeye, which I don't do.
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I appreciate the creativity, but the whole point of the creative routing was to be in a premium cabin on a widebody aircraft for the longest percentage of the flight. If that's not available, I'd just go to EWR or via BOS, or ORD on that morning 763. However, w/o any C inventory on the LAX-JFK flights, the only ways to do that are via MIA or SFO. The SJU, while clever, involves a redeye, which I don't do.
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I am planning a trip to NY at the end of March. On my dates, I cannot find a single C seat LAX-JFK, but I can find plenty of A seats to SFO on the 763s. I actually like the idea of F on a 763 better than J on a 762, but I'm a little concerned about a SFO connection.
Is there anyone here who chooses that route? My biggest concern, obviously, is a weather delay that would cause me to miss my flight to JFK. Should that happen, would AA reroute me directly out of LAX? What if no J seats are available, only F, would they give me one, or would they tell me no dice because it's a weather delay and they aren't really obligated to get me into a premium cabin until there is room on my original route?
Is there anyone here who chooses that route? My biggest concern, obviously, is a weather delay that would cause me to miss my flight to JFK. Should that happen, would AA reroute me directly out of LAX? What if no J seats are available, only F, would they give me one, or would they tell me no dice because it's a weather delay and they aren't really obligated to get me into a premium cabin until there is room on my original route?
First, you have the issue of getting to the AE terminal in LA. Then, you have to spend time flying up the coast, and waiting for the connecting flight. Then you have to deal with connections. Is it really worth increasing your travel time by 50 pecent or more?
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I'd be a litte worried about the connection LAX-SFO-JFK, since the short hops are the ones they like to delay when there are ATC probs in SFO. I wouldn't worry so much about it coming back the other way. Why don't you just schedule a longer layover in SFO - the executive center there is very quiet, and it's ideal for working during a layover.
I could understand the stress on getting a good seat on a 15 hour run to Asia, but for a 5 hour hop across the country, not worth it..to me at least.
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Why not take the proactive approach... look at weather in SFO, and take an earlier flight if it's bad (which I did when we apparently were on the same delayed LAX-SFO flight)
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