Really, how DUMB is aa.com?
#16
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Arlington, VA
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 1,013
Perhaps people are using search like good litter FTers?
#17
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: SFO/OAK
Programs: AA EXP 3.4MM, BAEC, UAMP, Skyteam (<10k) HH Gold, IHG Plat, Hertz Gold, GE/TSA TT
Posts: 2,723
Actually, one can research and book these itineraries on AA.com...if one uses the site correctly. It's true that AA doesn't fly to ATH, for example. The default is to have the "American Only" box ticked, so "we don't go there". If you tick the "American and Oneworld", it brings up a bunch of itineraries with the LHR/LGW - ATH leg on BA, just as you wanted. This also can be used for travel to KOI, bringing up the BA codeshare on LoganAir.
#19
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: bay area, california
Programs: aa exp 1MM, alaska air, united, hhonors gold, spg gold
Posts: 686
Ah .. the thread of the dead. Fly AA J all the way is long gone, flown away I guess.. but the questions linger.
After reading this ancient inquiry without noting the date I suddenly discover I'm in a time warp replying to a phantom.
So here goes.. has aa.com dramatically changed in the last two years? Arguable. But my current answer to the question is this:
What I do is find an itinerary on ita software or flights on expertflyer and then go to aa.com and enter the exact departure times and connecting cities of all flights I want.
With that kind of "special assistance", if you type v-e-ry- s-l-o-w-l-y and clearly, aa.com ususally can come up with the correct answer. Then I can go ahead and book.
Of course on occasion aa.com outdoes itself and gets the quickest and fastest and cheapest connections on its own. Price and schedule seems a definition improvement in this regard for simple flights.
After reading this ancient inquiry without noting the date I suddenly discover I'm in a time warp replying to a phantom.
So here goes.. has aa.com dramatically changed in the last two years? Arguable. But my current answer to the question is this:
What I do is find an itinerary on ita software or flights on expertflyer and then go to aa.com and enter the exact departure times and connecting cities of all flights I want.
With that kind of "special assistance", if you type v-e-ry- s-l-o-w-l-y and clearly, aa.com ususally can come up with the correct answer. Then I can go ahead and book.
Of course on occasion aa.com outdoes itself and gets the quickest and fastest and cheapest connections on its own. Price and schedule seems a definition improvement in this regard for simple flights.
#20
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Texas
Programs: AA EXP and 1MM, SPG Platinum, HHonors Gold, Hertz Prez. Circle
Posts: 66
quote: "THEN pay to talk to a human. I really don't think it's fair that you have to pay to talk to an AAgent to accomplish something aa.com won't do"
Sorry for my ignorance but what charges are you talking about?
Sorry for my ignorance but what charges are you talking about?
#21
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 33,533
There are ticketing fees for talking to a person to do ticketing. These apply to non-EXP and even apply if the itinerary cannot be booked online. The latter is, of course, the stupid part.
Cheers.
#22
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Texas
Programs: AA EXP and 1MM, SPG Platinum, HHonors Gold, Hertz Prez. Circle
Posts: 66
"There are ticketing fees for talking to a person to do ticketing. These apply to non-EXP and even apply if the itinerary cannot be booked online."
OMG that would be infuriating. Who comes up with these ideas? They need to be summarily dragged out back and shot.
OMG that would be infuriating. Who comes up with these ideas? They need to be summarily dragged out back and shot.
#23
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: London
Programs: AA EXP 2 MM
Posts: 2,823
aa.com cheaper than AA agent
In general I find I can get better fares and itineraries on aa.com than elsewhere: making use of Search by Schedule with 50 flights shown for fine tuning.
This week I finalized an itinerary ex-LHR that was S class TATL and N class for the domestic flights. But when I tried to hold it the price flipped between the quoted price and a higher price rather than holding (though I could go to the payment screen).
I phoned AA to apply the 15% MC discount ex LHR. The agent said that other people had reported problems with holding flights this week. But he could not get S class TATL (though EF showed S7 in both directions). So I made and held an S class booking of just the TATL flights for him to work on, but he then could not get N class on all the domestic flights (some showed N0 on EF, but I could still book them on aa.com ).
Finally got a discount, but based on the higher fare class domestic flights.
So why the big discrepancy between the agent and aa.com? I had assumed that apart from W class they worked off the same inventory?
This week I finalized an itinerary ex-LHR that was S class TATL and N class for the domestic flights. But when I tried to hold it the price flipped between the quoted price and a higher price rather than holding (though I could go to the payment screen).
I phoned AA to apply the 15% MC discount ex LHR. The agent said that other people had reported problems with holding flights this week. But he could not get S class TATL (though EF showed S7 in both directions). So I made and held an S class booking of just the TATL flights for him to work on, but he then could not get N class on all the domestic flights (some showed N0 on EF, but I could still book them on aa.com ).
Finally got a discount, but based on the higher fare class domestic flights.
So why the big discrepancy between the agent and aa.com? I had assumed that apart from W class they worked off the same inventory?
#24
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: OKC/DFW
Programs: AA EXP/2 MM
Posts: 9,999
It makes no sense that the Search By Price feature deosn't work as well as the other two, but I haven't found it to be as useful. It frequently overlooks either a better schedule or a lower fare. It's weird, because it seems that it ought to work just like the "Plans Flexible?" link (that appears when using the Search By Schedule feature), but at least in my experience, it doesn't.
#25
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 325
I share the frustrations with the crazy flight information sometimes provided by search engine on aa.com. I am having to interrupt a Maui vacation next month to fly home for a meeting. My home town is quick regional jet ride away from LAX. When I searched the trip under price and schedule, ALL of the possible itineraries routed me through DFW.
The fares were attractive and would have made a good mileage run but I really was trying to minimize the loss of vacation time in Hawaii, so I tried to search by price.
Ah, now I could avoid DFW but the price was significantly higher. Hit the plans felixble, check for lower prices and I am told I already have the lowest price.
So now I search by schedule and low and behold there is a reasonable schedule, avoiding DFW, and saving me an additional 17% off the price.
At least it reminded me not to reject a trip as too expensive until I had used multiple search tools. -- Suzanne
The fares were attractive and would have made a good mileage run but I really was trying to minimize the loss of vacation time in Hawaii, so I tried to search by price.
Ah, now I could avoid DFW but the price was significantly higher. Hit the plans felixble, check for lower prices and I am told I already have the lowest price.
So now I search by schedule and low and behold there is a reasonable schedule, avoiding DFW, and saving me an additional 17% off the price.
At least it reminded me not to reject a trip as too expensive until I had used multiple search tools. -- Suzanne
#26
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SJC/SFO/OAK
Programs: BD Gold (and future SEN), 0.2MM AA EXP, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 3,107
As a serious UA flyer for the last few years, simply having a website that can book roundtrips with flights featuring alliance partners is awfully refreshing. In comparison, I'm being spoiled by the AA website
#28
Company Representative - ITA Software
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 362
I can't find the article on our website anymore, but this presentation contains a lot of the same content:
http://www.demarcken.org/carl/papers...omplexity.html
http://www.demarcken.org/carl/papers...omplexity.html
#29
Company Representative - ITA Software
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 362
Of course, as soon as I post that, I find the article:
http://www.itasoftware.com/pdf/SIAM2007.pdf
http://www.itasoftware.com/pdf/SIAM2007.pdf