Flying on smaller jets
#16
Join Date: Jun 2005
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I love the ERJs. They are much better than 737s, in my opinion, because you can't get stuck in a middle seat.
They actually make me feel more comfortable beacuse you can usually see out the windows on both sides, regardless of where you are sitting. This gives a very open view to the cabin, especailly when it is a nice sunny day out.
They actually make me feel more comfortable beacuse you can usually see out the windows on both sides, regardless of where you are sitting. This gives a very open view to the cabin, especailly when it is a nice sunny day out.
#17
Join Date: Jun 2000
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The important factor for turbulence is wing loading which is the total weight of the aircraft divided by the area of the wing.
#18
Join Date: Sep 2004
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A couple of 'additional' words to the wise on the Regional Jets for a newbie.
1. DO NOT drink the coffee. They make it once in the morning and it flies all day in a kind of thermos .. and by evening is pretty poor quality. I do not think they have hot tea availabile .. and only beer/wine (no booze).
2. Restroom (if equipped). Never been .. kinda wonder how well a 6'2" 250# EXP would fit!
3. FA takes a pax count by 'zone' of the plane. You will see them count people (pointing fingers and talking to themselves) and writing on a piece of paper. IF the pilot asks for 2 people to move from the front of the plane to the rear of the plane for 'weight and balance' do not freak out. The smaller planes are more sensitive to front/back weight distribution. [I was on an airline once (Wings Airways from PHL) that acutally ASKED each pax how much they weighed and then assigned seats accordingly! I got a perfect over-wing seat!]
4. Valet bag check. Your roll-aboard bag gets a red Eagle tag .. and you drop it off by the side door on the jet bridge when you board. When you get off the plane they tell you to stand on one side (left/right) of the jet bridge to wait you valet checked bag. DO NOT forget to retreive your valet checked bag .. it is not going to transfer to another flight! Its for this flight only!
5. Eagle staff (gate and FA) especially are a little different than main-line staff. They are hired by the Eagle company and may not be 'as wonderful' as the staff you are used to on main-line. MANY FAs are former main-line, but also many are new recruits fresh out of the FA school! And many times they have not flown the route before so may know the main (ORD) airport but have no clue about the other airport as they 'turn around' and never get off the plane.
The smaller jets are kinda fun .. look out the window and UP at the bigger jets!
1. DO NOT drink the coffee. They make it once in the morning and it flies all day in a kind of thermos .. and by evening is pretty poor quality. I do not think they have hot tea availabile .. and only beer/wine (no booze).
2. Restroom (if equipped). Never been .. kinda wonder how well a 6'2" 250# EXP would fit!
3. FA takes a pax count by 'zone' of the plane. You will see them count people (pointing fingers and talking to themselves) and writing on a piece of paper. IF the pilot asks for 2 people to move from the front of the plane to the rear of the plane for 'weight and balance' do not freak out. The smaller planes are more sensitive to front/back weight distribution. [I was on an airline once (Wings Airways from PHL) that acutally ASKED each pax how much they weighed and then assigned seats accordingly! I got a perfect over-wing seat!]
4. Valet bag check. Your roll-aboard bag gets a red Eagle tag .. and you drop it off by the side door on the jet bridge when you board. When you get off the plane they tell you to stand on one side (left/right) of the jet bridge to wait you valet checked bag. DO NOT forget to retreive your valet checked bag .. it is not going to transfer to another flight! Its for this flight only!
5. Eagle staff (gate and FA) especially are a little different than main-line staff. They are hired by the Eagle company and may not be 'as wonderful' as the staff you are used to on main-line. MANY FAs are former main-line, but also many are new recruits fresh out of the FA school! And many times they have not flown the route before so may know the main (ORD) airport but have no clue about the other airport as they 'turn around' and never get off the plane.
The smaller jets are kinda fun .. look out the window and UP at the bigger jets!
#19
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Originally Posted by skye1
...I wouldn't even try a rolling carry on in those...maybe just a boarding bag, and "check" your rolling carry on at the door/bottom of the stairs as you board...
My 2,000-cubic inch backpack fits fine, even when it's stuffed pretty full.
Other than that, ditto what everyone else said.
#20
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Originally Posted by JGR01
3. FA takes a pax count by 'zone' of the plane. You will see them count people (pointing fingers and talking to themselves) and writing on a piece of paper. IF the pilot asks for 2 people to move from the front of the plane to the rear of the plane for 'weight and balance' do not freak out. The smaller planes are more sensitive to front/back weight distribution. [I was on an airline once (Wings Airways from PHL) that acutally ASKED each pax how much they weighed and then assigned seats accordingly! I got a perfect over-wing seat!]
If, however, I'm asked to move from the back of the plane to the front, I would cheerfully do so.
#21
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Location: Chicago Burbs
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Originally Posted by JGR01
A couple of 'additional' words to the wise on the Regional Jets for a newbie.
4. Valet bag check. Your roll-aboard bag gets a red Eagle tag .. and you drop it off by the side door on the jet bridge when you board. When you get off the plane they tell you to stand on one side (left/right) of the jet bridge to wait you valet checked bag. DO NOT forget to retreive your valet checked bag .. it is not going to transfer to another flight! Its for this flight only!
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4. Valet bag check. Your roll-aboard bag gets a red Eagle tag .. and you drop it off by the side door on the jet bridge when you board. When you get off the plane they tell you to stand on one side (left/right) of the jet bridge to wait you valet checked bag. DO NOT forget to retreive your valet checked bag .. it is not going to transfer to another flight! Its for this flight only!
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#22
Join Date: Jan 2005
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How long does it take to get your bag?
The first thing the ground staff does is unload the "Valet" bags before unloading the "checked" bags. The bring them up and put right outside the door of the plane on the jetway, or on a small metal baggage holder if you don't have a jetway.
#23
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What does the valet part mean? It is something you have to ask special for, pay for, etc?
#24
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Originally Posted by AAShel
What does the valet part mean? It is something you have to ask special for, pay for, etc?
#25
Originally Posted by AAShel
What does the valet part mean? It is something you have to ask special for, pay for, etc?
2) They take your bag, and you keep the stub.
3) Fly.
4) Bag appears shortly after you get off the plane.
All free.
#26
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: PHX
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I find it amazing that with the frequency a lot of the folk around here fly, so many have never been on an RJ. They've been around for a while now, but I suppose if you live in Chicago, Dallas or Miami, then you might not see many RJs.
#27
Join Date: May 2005
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In late summer 2001 I took an Eagle flight from BOS-PHL-BOS. The outward leg was on a horrible turboprop plane (which was delayed). It was deafeningly noisy, cramped and the toilets didn't even have water to wash with (just some nasty scented baby-wipe things which I did NOT appreciate at all).
The return was on an ERJ and much more comfortable. Ah -- for the pre 9/11 days when one could (as I did) arrive at the airport in PHL half an hour before the flight and breeze straight through to the gate without any trouble.
The return was on an ERJ and much more comfortable. Ah -- for the pre 9/11 days when one could (as I did) arrive at the airport in PHL half an hour before the flight and breeze straight through to the gate without any trouble.
#28
Join Date: May 2005
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I'd say that goes for any coffee or tea in Y class on AA. I once chose tea, only to discover when I tasted it that it had been made in a pot which had the dregs of some horribly stale coffee in it. Anyway, American tea isn't uite up to British standards (or El Al, which do quite good lemon tea in my experience)...
[QUOTE=JGR01]A couple of 'additional' words to the wise on the Regional Jets for a newbie.
1. DO NOT drink the coffee. They make it once in the morning and it flies all day in a kind of thermos .. and by evening is pretty poor quality. I do not think they have hot tea availabile .. and only beer/wine (no booze).
[QUOTE=JGR01]A couple of 'additional' words to the wise on the Regional Jets for a newbie.
1. DO NOT drink the coffee. They make it once in the morning and it flies all day in a kind of thermos .. and by evening is pretty poor quality. I do not think they have hot tea availabile .. and only beer/wine (no booze).
#29
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Alexandria, VA USA
Posts: 417
Originally Posted by JGR01
A couple of 'additional' words to the wise on the Regional Jets for a newbie.
1. DO NOT drink the coffee. They make it once in the morning and it flies all day in a kind of thermos .. and by evening is pretty poor quality. I do not think they have hot tea availabile .. and only beer/wine (no booze).
1. DO NOT drink the coffee. They make it once in the morning and it flies all day in a kind of thermos .. and by evening is pretty poor quality. I do not think they have hot tea availabile .. and only beer/wine (no booze).
2. Restroom (if equipped). Never been .. kinda wonder how well a 6'2" 250# EXP would fit!
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5. Eagle staff (gate and FA) especially are a little different than main-line staff. They are hired by the Eagle company and may not be 'as wonderful' as the staff you are used to on main-line.
MANY FAs are former main-line, but also many are new recruits fresh out of the FA school! And many times they have not flown the route before so may know the main (ORD) airport but have no clue about the other airport as they 'turn around' and never get off the plane.!
The smaller jets are kinda fun .. look out the window and UP at the bigger jets!
The technology the pilots have at their fingertips in a CRJ or ERJ is newer than a 747, an MD-80...probably a 777/767/757.
And, besides....I thought size didn't matter!
Last edited by DCA Blondie; Nov 1, 2005 at 10:35 pm
#30
Originally Posted by DCA Blondie
And, besides....I thought size didn't matter!
I don't mind RJs too much... the ease of on/off is the selling point. Definintely good for under an hour.
We'll see how I hold up on my ORD-RDU flight in Jan