more777sneeded

Hey everyone I have had to fortune of flying F on the 777 many times over the years (gotta love that flagship suite) but in January I will be flying on a 777 in F for the First time to Japan. Now I know the first class cabin is differnet somehow but am not really sure how. Is the pacific version of this aircraft as nice as the atlantic or is a 777 without the flagship suite just like any other aircraft in F? Any opionions from you experts out there is appreciated. I have bought a business ticket DFW-NRT in January and am trying to decide if it would truly be worth it to use miles to upgrade to first not having the flagship suites Ive grown accustom to. I mean do the seats recline fully flat like the atlantic version does?....what are the differences?

FWAAA

The coffin seats (non-Flagship suite F seats) lie as flat as the FS. They are just like the old coffins that were on the 767-300s prior to their conversion to 2 class.

I prefer the coffins if traveling with someone, as the FS place travelers too far apart to talk to each other or collaborate on anything (unless one gets up and moves to the footrest/bench.

You'll enjoy the coffins to NRT.

Chuckles

If you go to SEARCH THIS FORUM, and enter "777 PACIFIC" or "COFFIN" (as these seats are affectionately called), you will find a ton of info. One of the great aspects of FT!!! ^ I did this and read several threads - seems the concensus is that the coffins are adequate seats, and do lay flat, but do not come close to the Flagship seats, or F seats on CX and NH across the Pacific.

JonNYC

If what you are asking is, are the seats in any way like domestic F-- definitely not, it's still a great way to fly and well worth the upgrade for sure.

Greg76248

Its not a Flagship Suite, but it is definitely worth the upgrade to NRT.

GuatemAlA

when you have a flat bed. No question, Flagship Suite is better, but anywhere to NRT is a long haul, and First in the coffin is a lot better than biz class for DFW, ORD or LAX (my experience) to NRT. It is insane, if your are at anything from PLT or better (getting double miles + COS) to NOT use 15K miles each way to upgrade to F. Eat, drink, and sleep but do so horizontally. Biz to First is what we really earn our miles for, when there is any way to use them for our own benefit. And someday (we hope) coffin seats will be replaced by Flagship Suites on the Pacific 777's. If travelling alone, choose the middle seats--it is a 2-2-2 conffiguration so both middle seats are aisle seats, otherwise you have the classic situation of window seat having to climb over the aisle seat fully extended.

aa767flyer

I love the Suite's so nice to have the extra privacy and the movable armrest to sleep much better and with more room to roll around!

aamilesslave

Or, from Y to Biz, which is an even better use of miles.

pauleeepaul

On the tickets you buy and your travel patterns. I have been saving miles for the sorts of upgrade you suggest, and with the use of VIP upgrades first usage due to their shelf life I have accumulated a bloated account balance with AA. Next month I am going to LHR booked in J, and will be using miles to upgrade to F for the first time. After all, you can't take 'em with you...

anabolism

IMHO, while the FS seats are nicer and roomier for sleeping, a major difference is in the amount of personal space. The FS give you a huge tray and a desk area (under the window is especially nice). I haven't sprung for an iPod yet, and since I always trave with my laptop, I plug the headphones in and use iTunes to play music for the whole flight. In the FS, there is plenty of space, and I use the desk to keep my laptop out, along with a magazine or book and a bottle of water. That leaves the whole tray area for meals or whatever. In the Pacific 777 I have to juggle the laptop, putting it on my lap or on the floor, if I want to have room to eat.