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ARCHIVE: AA AAdvantage vs UA / United MileagePlus - status, perks, pros, cons
#151
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
I'm not abandoning UA outright, because as others have noted, sometimes they are the best choice for getting where I need to go. That said, I am no longer pursuing 1K status as if it is the holy grail, because the current UA management has made it very clear that they are pursuing a more egalitarian customer service strategy.
So far this year, I have twice as much mileage on AA than UA, which is a total reversal of years past. I have to say I like what I see on AA, despite all the well-known shortcomings. For one thing, the United Clubs have gone directly downhill since the merger, and I find myself using the AC every time where I have a choice between the two.
As other posters have noted, the days of the frequent flyer getting a boatload of benefits is over. Frequent flyers need to make rational choices about what airline to fly, and for the short term, more of my flying will be on American.
So far this year, I have twice as much mileage on AA than UA, which is a total reversal of years past. I have to say I like what I see on AA, despite all the well-known shortcomings. For one thing, the United Clubs have gone directly downhill since the merger, and I find myself using the AC every time where I have a choice between the two.
As other posters have noted, the days of the frequent flyer getting a boatload of benefits is over. Frequent flyers need to make rational choices about what airline to fly, and for the short term, more of my flying will be on American.
#152
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Programs: DL Platinum, AA Lifetime Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, Radisson Premium
Posts: 6,638
Things you'll like:
-Better upgrade chances as an EXP than a 1K
-More seats in F on average most flights
-EXP desk
-Food in F generally
-International eVIps on any fare
-Lounge access policy
-Free snack/meal item AND alcoholic beverage in Y for EXPs.
Things you'll dislike (and these are the reasons I originally left AA for PMUA):
-More mechanical delays
-More weather-related proactive cancellations
-Weaker route network
-Lack of pre-departure beverages most of the time (Trivial, I know, but compared to other airlines it's ridiculous).
-Less widebody aircraft domestically
I chose PMUA over AA. These days, I might choose AA over COdbaUA. Time will tell. I have to see what happens when they get out of BK. If they become like UA and start prioritizing single-flight revenue over elite status 90% of the time, then it's basically a new industry reality and I'll end up going with the airline that serves my destination & operational needs more (UA).
-Better upgrade chances as an EXP than a 1K
-More seats in F on average most flights
-EXP desk
-Food in F generally
-International eVIps on any fare
-Lounge access policy
-Free snack/meal item AND alcoholic beverage in Y for EXPs.
Things you'll dislike (and these are the reasons I originally left AA for PMUA):
-More mechanical delays
-More weather-related proactive cancellations
-Weaker route network
-Lack of pre-departure beverages most of the time (Trivial, I know, but compared to other airlines it's ridiculous).
-Less widebody aircraft domestically
I chose PMUA over AA. These days, I might choose AA over COdbaUA. Time will tell. I have to see what happens when they get out of BK. If they become like UA and start prioritizing single-flight revenue over elite status 90% of the time, then it's basically a new industry reality and I'll end up going with the airline that serves my destination & operational needs more (UA).
#153
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
I'd be surprised if AA doesn't orient itself similarly - further, that is. AA has had EQ Points a log time, and they have used these to emphasize higher level spending. I was personally surprised they did not base the new Million Miler program on points and not "Base" / EQ Miles.
After all, most of my lifetime miles were my fathers CC spending.
And I have LT PLT.
#154
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,267
Not entirely true--Golds and Plats are revenue-positive due to earned and purchased stickers. When it comes to u/g revenue, EXPs are the albatross around AA's neck.
#155
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
#156
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 116
[QUOTE=WChou:18216850]You might be jumping of the Titanic only to find you are climbing aboard the Britannic.[/QUOTE
Wow, that is a deep reference (which is a nice change of pace). Does that make Delta the Olympic?
Wow, that is a deep reference (which is a nice change of pace). Does that make Delta the Olympic?
#157
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SJC/PIT
Programs: AA EXP, AS 75K, TK Elite
Posts: 519
Impressed by IRROPS handling
I can't switch completely (due to company travel policy and frequency out of PIT) but this week I had a chance to try AA J for the first time. I was supposed to fly PIT-DFW-NRT and NRT-LAX-DFW-PIT. Also signed up for PLT challenge so I made PLT after the outbound.
For the flight experience itself, I'd say both have pros and cons. I really liked AC and noise-cancelling headset but I prefer UA's (new) seat and IFE.
But it was how they handled the IRROPS situation I had inbound that impressed me the most. NRT-LAX was delayed more than an hour due to the bad weather and subsequent congestion at NRT. Upon exiting the a/c at LAX, they handed an "express connection" tag to everyone with tight connection, which I've never seen on UA. Unfortunately I couldn't make it even with the tag (we had to use the immigration at TBIT) and reached AA check-in counter only at my flight's departure time.
I knew that there was another possible connection through DFW on AA later in the day that gets me to PIT a few hours late, so I assumed that was the best option they'd have for me. I checked the mobile app while waiting for an agent and, to my surprise, I was rebooked on a direct UA flight (in F, no less) that lands only 20 minutes after my original flight! ^
Probably being in J and the new PLT status (although the NRT folks couldn't update my status on the b/p) helped. Or maybe all AA options were full. In any case, this was quite impressive especially given the delay was not AA's fault.
For the flight experience itself, I'd say both have pros and cons. I really liked AC and noise-cancelling headset but I prefer UA's (new) seat and IFE.
But it was how they handled the IRROPS situation I had inbound that impressed me the most. NRT-LAX was delayed more than an hour due to the bad weather and subsequent congestion at NRT. Upon exiting the a/c at LAX, they handed an "express connection" tag to everyone with tight connection, which I've never seen on UA. Unfortunately I couldn't make it even with the tag (we had to use the immigration at TBIT) and reached AA check-in counter only at my flight's departure time.
I knew that there was another possible connection through DFW on AA later in the day that gets me to PIT a few hours late, so I assumed that was the best option they'd have for me. I checked the mobile app while waiting for an agent and, to my surprise, I was rebooked on a direct UA flight (in F, no less) that lands only 20 minutes after my original flight! ^
Probably being in J and the new PLT status (although the NRT folks couldn't update my status on the b/p) helped. Or maybe all AA options were full. In any case, this was quite impressive especially given the delay was not AA's fault.
#158
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 9,916
I can't switch completely (due to company travel policy and frequency out of PIT) but this week I had a chance to try AA J for the first time. I was supposed to fly PIT-DFW-NRT and NRT-LAX-DFW-PIT. Also signed up for PLT challenge so I made PLT after the outbound.
For the flight experience itself, I'd say both have pros and cons. I really liked AC and noise-cancelling headset but I prefer UA's (new) seat and IFE.
But it was how they handled the IRROPS situation I had inbound that impressed me the most. NRT-LAX was delayed more than an hour due to the bad weather and subsequent congestion at NRT. Upon exiting the a/c at LAX, they handed an "express connection" tag to everyone with tight connection, which I've never seen on UA. Unfortunately I couldn't make it even with the tag (we had to use the immigration at TBIT) and reached AA check-in counter only at my flight's departure time.
I knew that there was another possible connection through DFW on AA later in the day that gets me to PIT a few hours late, so I assumed that was the best option they'd have for me. I checked the mobile app while waiting for an agent and, to my surprise, I was rebooked on a direct UA flight (in F, no less) that lands only 20 minutes after my original flight! ^
Probably being in J and the new PLT status (although the NRT folks couldn't update my status on the b/p) helped. Or maybe all AA options were full. In any case, this was quite impressive especially given the delay was not AA's fault.
For the flight experience itself, I'd say both have pros and cons. I really liked AC and noise-cancelling headset but I prefer UA's (new) seat and IFE.
But it was how they handled the IRROPS situation I had inbound that impressed me the most. NRT-LAX was delayed more than an hour due to the bad weather and subsequent congestion at NRT. Upon exiting the a/c at LAX, they handed an "express connection" tag to everyone with tight connection, which I've never seen on UA. Unfortunately I couldn't make it even with the tag (we had to use the immigration at TBIT) and reached AA check-in counter only at my flight's departure time.
I knew that there was another possible connection through DFW on AA later in the day that gets me to PIT a few hours late, so I assumed that was the best option they'd have for me. I checked the mobile app while waiting for an agent and, to my surprise, I was rebooked on a direct UA flight (in F, no less) that lands only 20 minutes after my original flight! ^
Probably being in J and the new PLT status (although the NRT folks couldn't update my status on the b/p) helped. Or maybe all AA options were full. In any case, this was quite impressive especially given the delay was not AA's fault.
#159
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: AUS
Programs: AA EXP, MARRIOTT TI, HILTON GLD
Posts: 77
NRT-LAX was delayed more than an hour due to the bad weather and subsequent congestion at NRT. Upon exiting the a/c at LAX, they handed an "express connection" tag to everyone with tight connection, which I've never seen on UA. Unfortunately I couldn't make it even with the tag (we had to use the immigration at TBIT) and reached AA check-in counter only at my flight's departure time.
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#160
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Texas
Programs: Hyatt Glob (Barely); Marriott Plat Life; AA Up and Down Now Plat; Hilton, UA, BA, HA Peasant
Posts: 2,667
So I'm guessing if you say west coast, it must be Los Angeles area if you really have options. So the question becomes which airline serves the destination cities you most often fly to. Now if that is Chicago and New York, well, never mind, you have lots of choices. Other than that the decision probably becomes obvious even if you don't really like the answer.
Last edited by jayer; Apr 1, 2012 at 11:40 am
#161
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: DCA and STL
Programs: AA Concierge Key, Marriott Lifetime Titanium, National Car Executive Elite
Posts: 524
There are tons of us. The COdbaUA ship is sinking fast and it's early enough in the year that most of us can still get status on AA if we switch RIGHT NOW. The million-milers are way ahead of us in seeing the writing on the wall, but the rest of us... 1K, Gold, Silver, are lost. Should we switch? What should we consider before making the leap?
#162
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SJC/PIT
Programs: AA EXP, AS 75K, TK Elite
Posts: 519
Yep, that one. At least they distributed the headsets on the ground so I could watch a good portion of a movie before takeoff .
#163
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: AUS
Programs: AA EXP, MARRIOTT TI, HILTON GLD
Posts: 77
That said, I'm definitely shooting for EXP this year :-)
Ah, well, I was in Y. And unlike my outbound, I couldn't snag row 31. So I was definitely better off in the Lounge. Hahaha. But yes, I was pleasantly surprised that we could use the IFE pre-takeoff (though again, being in Y, IFE wasn't awesome since we had to wait for showings of movies to begin every 25 mins or so, and the selection was significantly more limited...)
#164
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: ORD-LAS
Programs: AA
Posts: 102
[QUOTE=NauticalWheeler;18218183]
To further illustrate, one can't expect to buy 50 cheeseburgers in a year and then receive a complimentary fine dining meal complete with filet mignon, drinks, and dessert. (I realize not not all frequent fliers buy just the cheeseburgers, however, many do.)
I agree with your point but the flipside of that coin? Some of us eat lots of
filet mignons in a year but also enjoy that juicy greasy cheeseburger!
To further illustrate, one can't expect to buy 50 cheeseburgers in a year and then receive a complimentary fine dining meal complete with filet mignon, drinks, and dessert. (I realize not not all frequent fliers buy just the cheeseburgers, however, many do.)
I agree with your point but the flipside of that coin? Some of us eat lots of
filet mignons in a year but also enjoy that juicy greasy cheeseburger!
#165
Join Date: Jan 2011
Programs: united
Posts: 104
Benefits of switching status from United to American?
I am United Premier Gold, after merger with Continental. I'm not happy with the level of service, 50% miles vs 100%, and the fact that upgrades are nonexistent now that I'm competing with more freq fliers. I am considering switching but am unsure of best time:
1) Will American match my United status if I do switch (I plan to fly 60k miles this year)?
2) What is best month/time to switch?
3) Do you feel American has better benefits overall (I fly to Chicago, Seattle, Miami, San Fran, act). I am based in NYC and also fly to Egypt and China yearly for business, along with the Caribbean.
4) Any other suggestions for making the switch to take advantage of the situation since UA has been so disappointing?
Thanks in advance
1) Will American match my United status if I do switch (I plan to fly 60k miles this year)?
2) What is best month/time to switch?
3) Do you feel American has better benefits overall (I fly to Chicago, Seattle, Miami, San Fran, act). I am based in NYC and also fly to Egypt and China yearly for business, along with the Caribbean.
4) Any other suggestions for making the switch to take advantage of the situation since UA has been so disappointing?
Thanks in advance