ARCHIVE: American oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on
Dec 13, 2014, 7:50 am
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Dec 13, 2014, 12:40 pm
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Unless things have changed, this will price as 2 awards and so you would need to redeposit the miles plus rebook using Europe-Middle East plus Middle East to South Pacific awards . Abu Dhabi was not listed as one of the 3rd region valid transit point exceptions for a Europe-South Pacific award
Mileage cost will be 50k/75k/100k in for economy/business/1st one way plus the $150 fee ( extra 5k/15k/20k miles over LHR-SYD )
Mileage cost will be 50k/75k/100k in for economy/business/1st one way plus the $150 fee ( extra 5k/15k/20k miles over LHR-SYD )
Dec 14, 2014, 12:54 am
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I'm pretty sure the rule was changed when Qatar was added to Oneworld.
Dec 14, 2014, 5:42 am
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Dec 14, 2014, 8:59 am
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Dec 14, 2014, 11:19 pm
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1 All Partner Award or 2? S American Zone 2->2 traversing Zone 1 due to availability
Looking for some advice on this. Perhaps I may have correct information, but there is some significant complexity or subtlety throwing a wrench into its implementation.
Looking to book an AA All Partner 1-way award from VVI to CWB
There is a fare basis for this flight on TAM that routes VVI to ASU to GRU to CWB using both PZ (TAM Mercosur) and JJ (TAM) flight numbers. However there is no award availability (although it is available for purchase). Benefit of this route is that it stays within South America Zone 2. Had there been award availability, it would be 10k miles one-way.
The only award availability I can find routes VVI to LIM to GRU to CWB (on combinations of LAN and TAM). However, this represents a South America Zone 2 traverse to Zone 1 and back to Zone 2 and then prices out as two separate awards for 15k + 15k = 30k.
Given the large difference between 10k and 30k per direction, I am motivated to ensure this is correct. I have read elsewhere that "The number of awards assessed should be determined by the customer’s intentions. If the indirect routing is booked at the customer’s request, multiple awards should apply using Pricing Override Options – Force Fare Breakpoint. If the routing is booked based on lack of award availability on direct routes, then an exception may be made, allowing Sabre to price as one award."
I called and asked about this, but I was told 30k is correct. I understand that 30k is "correct," but is there a way to request the exception referenced above to arrivae at another "correct" mileage cost given that the origin / destination is available for purchase staying within Zone 2 (and if not for award availability, I would certainly just stay within Zone 2)?
Or. . . am I missing some other key fact? Is there an intricacy that the fare that prices on TAM uses both TAM and the regional TAM carriers (both JJ and PZ)?
For futher complexity, I also noted that the website for LAN does not price the route, but the website for TAM does price the route from VVI->CWB
Any help would be much appreciated.
Looking to book an AA All Partner 1-way award from VVI to CWB
There is a fare basis for this flight on TAM that routes VVI to ASU to GRU to CWB using both PZ (TAM Mercosur) and JJ (TAM) flight numbers. However there is no award availability (although it is available for purchase). Benefit of this route is that it stays within South America Zone 2. Had there been award availability, it would be 10k miles one-way.
The only award availability I can find routes VVI to LIM to GRU to CWB (on combinations of LAN and TAM). However, this represents a South America Zone 2 traverse to Zone 1 and back to Zone 2 and then prices out as two separate awards for 15k + 15k = 30k.
Given the large difference between 10k and 30k per direction, I am motivated to ensure this is correct. I have read elsewhere that "The number of awards assessed should be determined by the customer’s intentions. If the indirect routing is booked at the customer’s request, multiple awards should apply using Pricing Override Options – Force Fare Breakpoint. If the routing is booked based on lack of award availability on direct routes, then an exception may be made, allowing Sabre to price as one award."
I called and asked about this, but I was told 30k is correct. I understand that 30k is "correct," but is there a way to request the exception referenced above to arrivae at another "correct" mileage cost given that the origin / destination is available for purchase staying within Zone 2 (and if not for award availability, I would certainly just stay within Zone 2)?
Or. . . am I missing some other key fact? Is there an intricacy that the fare that prices on TAM uses both TAM and the regional TAM carriers (both JJ and PZ)?
For futher complexity, I also noted that the website for LAN does not price the route, but the website for TAM does price the route from VVI->CWB
Any help would be much appreciated.
Dec 14, 2014, 11:29 pm
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Looking for some advice on this. Perhaps I may have correct information, but there is some significant complexity or subtlety throwing a wrench into its implementation.
Looking to book an AA All Partner 1-way award from VVI to CWB
There is a fare basis for this flight on TAM that routes VVI to ASU to GRU to CWB using both PZ (TAM Mercosur) and JJ (TAM) flight numbers. However there is no award availability (although it is available for purchase). Benefit of this route is that it stays within South America Zone 2. Had there been award availability, it would be 10k miles one-way.
The only award availability I can find routes VVI to LIM to GRU to CWB (on combinations of LAN and TAM). However, this represents a South America Zone 2 traverse to Zone 1 and back to Zone 2 and then prices out as two separate awards for 15k + 15k = 30k.
Given the large difference between 10k and 30k per direction, I am motivated to ensure this is correct. I have read elsewhere that "The number of awards assessed should be determined by the customer’s intentions. If the indirect routing is booked at the customer’s request, multiple awards should apply using Pricing Override Options – Force Fare Breakpoint. If the routing is booked based on lack of award availability on direct routes, then an exception may be made, allowing Sabre to price as one award."
I called and asked about this, but I was told 30k is correct. I understand that 30k is "correct," but is there a way to request the exception referenced above to arrivae at another "correct" mileage cost given that the origin / destination is available for purchase staying within Zone 2 (and if not for award availability, I would certainly just stay within Zone 2)?
Looking to book an AA All Partner 1-way award from VVI to CWB
There is a fare basis for this flight on TAM that routes VVI to ASU to GRU to CWB using both PZ (TAM Mercosur) and JJ (TAM) flight numbers. However there is no award availability (although it is available for purchase). Benefit of this route is that it stays within South America Zone 2. Had there been award availability, it would be 10k miles one-way.
The only award availability I can find routes VVI to LIM to GRU to CWB (on combinations of LAN and TAM). However, this represents a South America Zone 2 traverse to Zone 1 and back to Zone 2 and then prices out as two separate awards for 15k + 15k = 30k.
Given the large difference between 10k and 30k per direction, I am motivated to ensure this is correct. I have read elsewhere that "The number of awards assessed should be determined by the customer’s intentions. If the indirect routing is booked at the customer’s request, multiple awards should apply using Pricing Override Options – Force Fare Breakpoint. If the routing is booked based on lack of award availability on direct routes, then an exception may be made, allowing Sabre to price as one award."
I called and asked about this, but I was told 30k is correct. I understand that 30k is "correct," but is there a way to request the exception referenced above to arrivae at another "correct" mileage cost given that the origin / destination is available for purchase staying within Zone 2 (and if not for award availability, I would certainly just stay within Zone 2)?
And, no, there is no appealing that.
Dec 14, 2014, 11:30 pm
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It's two awards. SA2 to SA2 does not permit any transit via SA1. Ever.
It's two awards. SA2 to SA2 does not permit any transit via SA1. Ever.
Dec 15, 2014, 12:44 am
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I booked a oneworld award ticket a few months ago that departs Wednesday morning. If I decide not to take this flight and change the dates to a couple months out from now, how late can I make a change to the date? My understanding is I can make this change anytime before the flight with no charge, but wanted to clarify here. Thanks.
Dec 15, 2014, 5:28 am
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Looking for some advice on this. Perhaps I may have correct information, but there is some significant complexity or subtlety throwing a wrench into its implementation.
Looking to book an AA All Partner 1-way award from VVI to CWB
There is a fare basis for this flight on TAM that routes VVI to ASU to GRU to CWB using both PZ (TAM Mercosur) and JJ (TAM) flight numbers. However there is no award availability (although it is available for purchase). Benefit of this route is that it stays within South America Zone 2. Had there been award availability, it would be 10k miles one-way.
The only award availability I can find routes VVI to LIM to GRU to CWB (on combinations of LAN and TAM). However, this represents a South America Zone 2 traverse to Zone 1 and back to Zone 2 and then prices out as two separate awards for 15k + 15k = 30k.
Looking to book an AA All Partner 1-way award from VVI to CWB
There is a fare basis for this flight on TAM that routes VVI to ASU to GRU to CWB using both PZ (TAM Mercosur) and JJ (TAM) flight numbers. However there is no award availability (although it is available for purchase). Benefit of this route is that it stays within South America Zone 2. Had there been award availability, it would be 10k miles one-way.
The only award availability I can find routes VVI to LIM to GRU to CWB (on combinations of LAN and TAM). However, this represents a South America Zone 2 traverse to Zone 1 and back to Zone 2 and then prices out as two separate awards for 15k + 15k = 30k.
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Dec 26, 2014, 8:58 pm
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I was looking for an LAX-NRT in F in July, but couldn't find the dates I needed. However, CX does have availability LAX-HKG, can I do LAX-HKG-NRT? I know Asia 1 can be a stopover for Asia 2, but what about the reverse? Or will it be 2 awards?
Thanks!
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Dec 26, 2014, 9:03 pm
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