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Mother-in-Law going on AA from YYZ to PVR - will checkin agent allow her to board?

Mother-in-Law going on AA from YYZ to PVR - will checkin agent allow her to board?

 
Old Oct 12, 15, 9:35 am
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Mother-in-Law going on AA from YYZ to PVR - will checkin agent allow her to board?

My mother-in-law will be going with my sister-in-law from YYZ to PVR via DFW on American Airlines.

My sister-in-law is a Canadian citizen- no issues there.

The issue is my mother-in-law. Indian citizen/passport holder - Canadian permanent and holder of US 10 multi-entry tourist/visitor's visa.

By the Mexican visa and Mexican embassy (both for Canada and for India) web sites, the 2 criteria listed above exempt her from requiring a visa to enter Mexico. But the average Indian citizen visiting Mexico as a tourist does need a visa.

The question is whether she would be allowed by the American airlines check-in/gate agent to board, if they think she will not be allowed entry to Mexico without a visa.


PS-although this has no relevance for her entry to USA, she does have nexus/global entry.
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Old Oct 12, 15, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII
My mother-in-law will be going with my sister-in-law from YYZ to PVR via DFW on American Airlines.

My sister-in-law is a Canadian citizen- no issues there.

The issue is my mother-in-law. Indian citizen/passport holder - Canadian permanent and holder of US 10 multi-entry tourist/visitor's visa.

By the Mexican visa and Mexican embassy (both for Canada and for India) web sites, the 2 criteria listed above exempt her from requiring a visa to enter Mexico. But the average Indian citizen visiting Mexico as a tourist does need a visa.

The question is whether she would be allowed by the American airlines check-in/gate agent to board, if they think she will not be allowed entry to Mexico without a visa.


PS-although this has no relevance for her entry to USA, she does have nexus/global entry.
Enter your mother-in-law's data into the Timatic engine, and see what it spits out. That is what the AA agent at YYZ will likely see.

http://www.staralliance.com/en/servi...sa-and-health/
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Old Oct 12, 15, 10:58 am
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Yes, that tool does say that she can enter Mexico if she is a Canadian permanent resident (which she is). It does not say that a holder of a valid US visa can also enter Mexico- which she also has, but does not need, because she is a permanent Canadian resident.

It does say that she needs a US visa to transit USA - which she has.

I wonder if the agent will go to the Star Alliance web site - I wonder if One World has a similar link?
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Old Oct 12, 15, 11:09 am
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Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII View Post
Yes, that tool does say that she can enter Mexico if she is a Canadian permanent resident (which she is). It does not say that a holder of a valid US visa can also enter Mexico- which she also has, but does not need, because she is a permanent Canadian resident.

It does say that she needs a US visa to transit USA - which she has.

I wonder if the agent will go to the Star Alliance web site - I wonder if One World has a similar link?
You're only seeing an iteration of the International Air Transport Association (IATA) TimaticWeb as provided through UA. The AA agent will use IATA TimaticWeb direct - no difference, no need for a putative "oneworld version" because it's all IATA TimaticWeb, no versions or differences. Same source, same engine and what the airlines use when clearing you to fly. See http://www.iata.org/publications/tim...uirements.aspx

*All these sites are based on the original version of TimaticWeb.
In case you get a semi-competent agent, you may want to print out the results you get and be prepared with calm firmness, including a possible necessity of requesting a supervisor.

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Old Oct 13, 15, 1:13 pm
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As long as the agent correctly inputs the country of residence as Canada and not India in the automated travel document verification system, you should have no issues.
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Old Oct 13, 15, 5:56 pm
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I would also add that she may wish to bring along a printed copy of the Timatic info with her. I experienced a trip last week to SE Asia (via Beijing) that involved two separate carriers and itineraries, although it was a perfectly legal connection and required no visa for China.

The operator for the first segment did not want to check me in as they were reading the rules different than I was. I had a print out and walked them through it and they eventually agreed and checked me in.

I believe they had entered my information wrong into Timatic which caused them to want to deny boarding. Printouts are always helpful in these semi-complex scenarios.
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