Pope Francis to Fly AA charter WAS (ADW)-JFK, JFK-PHL, PHL-CIA

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Pope Francis Flying AA9420 Chartered 772 WAS-JFK-PHL-CIA

The Pope flies in a normal commercial airliner chartered for his flights. Normally the outbound airline is Alitalia, the return an airline selected as much as possible to be the national or "flag" carrier of the country returning from.

On this trip, an Alitalia Airbus A330-202 (EI-EJG, c/n 1123, "Raffaello Sanzio" (painter of late Renaissance Popes) was used FCO-HAV-HOG-SCU-ADW, an American Airlines Boeing 777-223ER will supply the onward/return aircraft (probably selected because it has the first class Flagship Suite for the overnight flight) for ADW-JFK-PHL-FCO, with a USMC helicopter providing JFK-JRB-JFK service.

The AA aircraft used, at least WAS/ADW-JFK-PHL, is Boeing 777-223ER N776AN (c/n 29582) a pre-CIP 77A. The flight number AA9420 is being used throughout. See tracking here.

Francis is to be accompanied by approximately thirty staff in his seguito, typically consisting of "the Cardinal Secretary of State, Pietro Parolin; one or two other cardinals and bishops; ~10 priests, most of them officials of the Secretariat of State; and ~20 laity, most employees of the Vatican Press Office as well as plainclothes agents of the Vatican security service and the Swiss Guard."

The passengers and crew will number about 110 during this trip. The Pope and his seguito take up F and C. The accompanying ~70 journalists pay the cost of the charter by paying for their fares, and sit in Economy class. The seventy reporters must fly the entire trip, FCO-HAV-HOG-SCU-ADW-JFK-PHL-FCO are said to be paying $5,500 each, $385,000 total. (From cruxnow.com); only the Pope and select company will do the portion of the JFK-JRB-JFK portion of the trip which is being conducted by USMC helicopters.

Though he rode a Fiat into the city of Washington, according to Business Journal International Limousine Service will be providing transportation for His Holiness and his entourage in all U.S. three cities.

Though "goody bags" are no longer handed out, it is said the members of the VAMP, Vatican press corps, do get to keep the Papal seat headers covers used for the charter flights.


Papal emblem seat head rest cover

Pope Francis' flight schedule

Saturday, September 19, 2015
10:35 a.m. Pope Francis departs FCO AZ A330-202 EI-EJB to HAV
3:51 pm.m. Papal aircraft lands at HAV / José Martí international airport
Monday, September 21, 2015
8 a.m. Departure by air for Holguin, Cuba.
9.20 a.m. Arrival at HOG / Holguin Frank País International Airport
4.40p.m. Departure by air for Santiago de Cuba.
5.30 p.m. Arrival at SCU / Santiago de Cuba’s Antonio Maceo International Airport
Tuesday, September 22, 2015
12:30 p.m. Leaves SCU / Santiago de Cuba aboard Alitalia charter A330-202
4 p.m. Pope Francis arrives in D.C. at Joint Base Andrews at 4 p.m.
Thursday, September 24, 2015 AA9420
4 p.m Departure for New York from Joint Base Andrews (D.C.)
5 p.m. Arrival at JFK / John F. Kennedy International Airport (New York)
Saturday, September 26, 2015 AA9420
8:40 a.m Departure for PHL / Philadelphia from JFK / John F. Kennedy International Airport
9:30 a.m Arrival in Atlantic Aviation hangar at PHL / Philadelphia International Airport Philadelphia
8 p.m Departure for return to Rome CIA
Sunday, September 27, 2015 AA9420
09:57 a.m. Arrival CIA / Ciampino international airport
All times local time; subject to change

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Old Sep 27, 15, 5:40 pm
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The pope's plane, Shepherd 1 (not using a callsign of American 9420), is currently taxiing at PHL for departure. They filed for PHL-CIA (Ciampino), not FCO:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...000Z/KPHL/LIRA
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Originally Posted by Azulcactus View Post
Have a link?

I thought the Pope had his own Alitalia plane, I believe he arrived in the US with that.

I did see pics of an AA plane taking him from NYC to Philadelphia. I found that strange.
The AA plane will be the one flying pope PHL-FCO
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'Cause no tie makes him so much less of a man.

Just wondering, what kind of tie was the pope wearing?

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And both Shepherd 1 and Air Force 2 are off, and tower is telling waiting aircraft to power up engines and be ready to move, with all runways in use again.

I believe these VIP departures may be a bit ahead of schedule, which should help alleviate the delays.
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Well it just took off, headed back across the pond ... http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N776AN

To the question upthread about a ferry back to the US - I am going to float the guess that they ferry it to FRA or CDG or LHR for use back to the US in normal operations. We will know soon enough!

A great bit of PR for AA!
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I wonder if they'll make the Citi AAdvantage Credit Card Announcement.
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Are you thinking the photographer, in the black suit, wearing a tie, is Doug Parker not wearing a tie? Or did he appear in the doorway after the Pope was at the top step?




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They could have made a better effort at getting the coat of arms straight...
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The coat of arms not straight, no helping him with his carry-on, and Doug Parker no comment. What a way to send him off. Although not sure Alitalia would be better...
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no helping him with his carry-on
I've read that the pope is adamant about wanting to carry his own bag onto planes.
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I've read that the pope is adamant about wanting to carry his own bag onto planes.
It's so that he can answer the security screening questions honestly....
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Originally Posted by jtav559 View Post
Well it just took off, headed back across the pond ... http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N776AN

To the question upthread about a ferry back to the US - I am going to float the guess that they ferry it to FRA or CDG or LHR for use back to the US in normal operations. We will know soon enough!

A great bit of PR for AA!

In the end they just seem to be sending it back empty CIA-DFW.

(Of course some form of ferrying would have been needed in any case since AA doesn't serve CIA...)
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28-Sep-2015 B772/L Ciampino (Giovan Battista Pastine) (LIRA / CIA) Dallas/Fort Worth Intl (KDFW) 12:59 CEST 17:14 CDT 11:15

(Ar CIA 09:57 following day)

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Originally Posted by ijgordon View Post
So we know the aircraft - anyone know what seat he sat in? Some businessperson will be sitting in that seat in a few days...
One of the local TV stationed mentioned that he had all of row one to himself.
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AA just posted a video, mentions 'solid' curtains being installed. ..

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