AA167 MIA-SFO - what hard product ?

 
Old Apr 22, 2015, 10:13 am
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AA167 MIA-SFO - what hard product ?

Hi guys,

I am travelling in F on Friday morning the 7:25am departure to SFO on AA167 MIA-SFO.

Which hard product can I expect ? I know that this route despite being 6 hours long does not get the "flagship" service (whatever that is) but can I expect fully flat beds ? Or at least angled flat ? Don't tell me recliners lol. It's not a red eye but given I'm gonna need to be waking up at an ungodly hour to catch this flight, a bit of sleep would be nice.

And revenue F tickets for domestic on AA (or any US carrier?) don't come with lounge access do they ?

Thanks
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Old Apr 22, 2015, 10:19 am
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What kind of aircraft? (Not many will look that up for you.)

If 767-323ER / 763, angled or fully flat flat beds.

If 737-800, reclining; ditto 757.

No lounge access with any of these.

We've moved this to the proper forum; AA and US maintain separate fleets. /Moderator
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Old Apr 22, 2015, 10:27 am
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AA puts plenty of recliners on MIA-SFO vv, lucky for youhowever, AA167 is a 763, and as JDiver said:
Originally Posted by JDiver
If 767-323ER / 763, angled or fully flat flat beds.
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Old Apr 22, 2015, 12:17 pm
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AA167 on Friday should be the retrofitted 767 with lie flat - great seat!
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Old Apr 22, 2015, 1:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Nizar
And revenue F tickets for domestic on AA (or any US carrier?) don't come with lounge access do they ?
Not for this route.
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by jeremysmith
AA167 on Friday should be the retrofitted 767 with lie flat - great seat!
My 931 earlier this week (167 turns for 931) was supposed to be a new-config 767 but was equip-swapped for the old config ~6 hours prior to 167's departure. Was a bummer, especially for loss of wifi on a daytime transcon.
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by 1K-SFO
My 931 earlier this week (167 turns for 931) was supposed to be a new-config 767 but was equip-swapped for the old config ~6 hours prior to 167's departure. Was a bummer, especially for loss of wifi on a daytime transcon.
Do any of the 763s, retrofitted or old, have inflight WiFi?
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 7:27 pm
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Do any of the 763s, retrofitted or old, have inflight WiFi?
Not as far as I know.

And according to Gogo's publicly filed data, the number of passengers that don't bother with Wi-Fi has plateaued at 93.4% (not getting any lower), so it's probably a lower priority at AA for aircraft that have a limited life left.
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Old Apr 24, 2015, 12:56 am
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Originally Posted by jeremysmith
AA167 on Friday should be the retrofitted 767 with lie flat - great seat!
ExpertFlyer is showing AA167 on Friday as old configuration.

Originally Posted by Nizar
And revenue F tickets for domestic on AA (or any US carrier?) don't come with lounge access do they ?
If it is part of an international itinerary I believe you do get lounge access, or if you have status in a non-AA OneWorld member I think you would get lounge access as well.
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Old Apr 24, 2015, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by whimike
ExpertFlyer is showing AA167 on Friday as old configuration.
I checked EF before posting that and it showed the new config. Seems swaps on 167/931 are occurring more frequently. Bummer.
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Old Apr 24, 2015, 11:39 am
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It's really cool a 767 with the new configuration is used on this route...now my question is...is this just a limited run? If I check aircrafts on future dates past May, the 767 with new biz never comes up.
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Old Apr 24, 2015, 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Nizar
Hi guys,

I am travelling in F on Friday morning the 7:25am departure to SFO on AA167 MIA-SFO.

Which hard product can I expect ? I know that this route despite being 6 hours long does not get the "flagship" service (whatever that is) but can I expect fully flat beds ? Or at least angled flat ? Don't tell me recliners lol. It's not a red eye but given I'm gonna need to be waking up at an ungodly hour to catch this flight, a bit of sleep would be nice.

And revenue F tickets for domestic on AA (or any US carrier?) don't come with lounge access do they ?

Thanks
Originally Posted by bdemaria
Not for this route.
I read it as "yes." F on a nonstop transcon on a 2-cabin plane qualifies. They define transcon on a 3-cabin configuration as LAX-MIA only, but not 2-class.

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInform...sClub_FAQs.jsp

It certainly can't hurt to try, unless you're easily embarrassed.
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Old Apr 24, 2015, 8:15 pm
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Originally Posted by critterchick
I read it as "yes." F on a nonstop transcon on a 2-cabin plane qualifies. They define transcon on a 3-cabin configuration as LAX-MIA only, but not 2-class.

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInform...sClub_FAQs.jsp

It certainly can't hurt to try, unless you're easily embarrassed.
You may read it as "yes", but it clearly says "no." MIA-SFO is not one of the 3 transcon routes, so it does not qualify.

Edit: on further reading, I suppose it is a bit ambiguous. But regardless, F on MIA-SFO does not grant AC access.
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Old Apr 24, 2015, 9:19 pm
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Originally Posted by critterchick
I read it as "yes." F on a nonstop transcon on a 2-cabin plane qualifies. They define transcon on a 3-cabin configuration as LAX-MIA only, but not 2-class.

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInform...sClub_FAQs.jsp

It certainly can't hurt to try, unless you're easily embarrassed.
You're reading it incorrectly. On a two class transcon, the answer is "no".
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Old Apr 24, 2015, 9:20 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver
You're reading it incorrectly (admittedly, it's murky). But, on a two class transcon, the answer is "no".
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