email from AA re TSA Pre-Check
Apr 8, 2015, 9:03 am
#61
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: LAX
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Posts: 376
All being said, out of LAX, ( always flying out of 4), I had a Pre√ boarding pass 100% of the time for 2014/2015. Maybe I just got lucky.
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Apr 8, 2015, 10:10 am
#62
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The KUL city
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat, TK Elite+
Posts: 2,663
The removal of elite passengers affects passengers who are living in the US on a long(-ish) term visa most (H1B and L1 comes to mind) since they are not a GC holder.
Apr 8, 2015, 10:26 am
#63
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: AA LT Gold
Posts: 3,645
Only after I naturalized as a US Citizen and updated that to my Global Entry and airline profile, I started to get 100% of the time TSA PRE.
So, it seems that non-us citizens with Global Entry DON'T get TSA Pre.
Apr 8, 2015, 10:45 am
#64
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: BOS, LAX
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond
Posts: 804
FYI, as a green card holder (permanent resident) WITH Global Entry, I NEVER got TSA PRE on my boarding pass. NEVER (and yes, I made sure that my KTN was with my AA profile and in the reservation before traveling, I checked and made sure several times)
Only after I naturalized as a US Citizen and updated that to my Global Entry and airline profile, I started to get 100% of the time TSA PRE.
So, it seems that non-us citizens with Global Entry DON'T get TSA Pre.
Only after I naturalized as a US Citizen and updated that to my Global Entry and airline profile, I started to get 100% of the time TSA PRE.
So, it seems that non-us citizens with Global Entry DON'T get TSA Pre.
Apr 8, 2015, 11:24 am
#65
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Austin, TX
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This is nonsense. The only requirement was to be frequent flyer (EXP, etc).
You can have a US citizen turned terrorist (or terrorist turned citizen) fly for one - five years, get EXP, get TSA PRE...boom!!! hijack a plane.
9/11 was not planned last minute and there are reports it started being planned in 1995 (6 years prior).
Flying a lot or being elite without an issue really does not prove anything.
You can have a US citizen turned terrorist (or terrorist turned citizen) fly for one - five years, get EXP, get TSA PRE...boom!!! hijack a plane.
9/11 was not planned last minute and there are reports it started being planned in 1995 (6 years prior).
Flying a lot or being elite without an issue really does not prove anything.
Apr 8, 2015, 11:27 am
#66
Join Date: Nov 2010
Programs: AA PLT 3MM
Posts: 1,135
Only a few selected non-US nationals are eligible for GE (the Netherlands, Germany, South Korea, Mexico, and Panama citizens).
The removal of elite passengers affects passengers who are living in the US on a long(-ish) term visa most (H1B and L1 comes to mind) since they are not a GC holder.
The removal of elite passengers affects passengers who are living in the US on a long(-ish) term visa most (H1B and L1 comes to mind) since they are not a GC holder.
Apr 8, 2015, 12:28 pm
#67
Join Date: May 2014
Location: YYZ
Posts: 527
Respectively disagree. Lack of a criminal record may be a good predictor of someone's propensity to smuggle and therefore may be the best determinant for GE. I think a long history of flying without issue is a better predictor of future flight behavior instead of criminal history and therefore is the better determinant for Pre-Check. After all, the two programs are clearing a traveler for two different things.
Apr 8, 2015, 2:13 pm
#68
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold but PlatPro thanks to LPs
Posts: 4,439
A German friend of mine (lives in Germany, no green card, no long stay visa) applied for and got Global Entry. His interview at LAX was 3/30/15, final approval 4/3/15. He then got Pre-Check on his flight back to Germany 4/7/15.
There is a forum in German called www.vielfliegertreff.de where US Global Entry for Germans is discussed in detail.
Apr 8, 2015, 7:58 pm
#69
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 506
I know some UK citizens have got GE because a colleague of mine has. I actually put him onto a thread here on FT that explained how to apply for it. You had to email some specific individual in the DHS who gave you an application code. You then had to get a police report in the UK and follow the standard GE application process - including scheduling the interview. My colleague did his interview at YOW on a business trip. Apparently the officer there was very confused since he'd never heard of UK citizens getting GE before (and he was a NEXUS guy anyway).
Apr 8, 2015, 8:06 pm
#70
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 506
Also to add: am a UK citizen so not allowed to be enrolled into GE/NEXUS (at least so far as I am aware)
Previously US CP and got TSA-Pre pretty consistently perhaps 90% towards 100% as they got close to integration. I always thought it was 'building a track record' over time. Suddenly post integration and when matched over to EXP, no more TSA-Pre, literally 0%.
While I'm sure many are happy about this, have any other non-US FTers experienced something similar? Is this temporary or permanent based on the email from AA referred to in this thread?
Previously US CP and got TSA-Pre pretty consistently perhaps 90% towards 100% as they got close to integration. I always thought it was 'building a track record' over time. Suddenly post integration and when matched over to EXP, no more TSA-Pre, literally 0%.
While I'm sure many are happy about this, have any other non-US FTers experienced something similar? Is this temporary or permanent based on the email from AA referred to in this thread?
Apr 8, 2015, 8:41 pm
#71
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: AA EXP, PriorityClub Gold, SPG Gold, Hertz Gold fivestar
Posts: 486
I thought British nationals living in the US on a Visa (not a green card) were not eligible for a KTN but were eligible for opt in via a frequent flyer program.
Apr 9, 2015, 1:15 am
#72
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The KUL city
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat, TK Elite+
Posts: 2,663
That is true, but it's not only restricted to British nationals (I don't think nationality restricts one from opting in via FFP).
Apr 9, 2015, 1:54 am
#73
Join Date: Nov 2010
Programs: AA PLT 3MM
Posts: 1,135
The original TSA rules clearly stated that Precheck was restricted to US citizens. However, I don't think airlines necessarily had this information to pass on to the TSA.
Apr 9, 2015, 4:05 am
#74
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 506
Just opted in via AA.com... Didn't realised it required affirmative action on our end. As a US CP, we were automatically signed up to TSA Pre. Lets see if it works!
Apr 9, 2015, 10:57 am
#75
Join Date: Apr 2003
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The vast majority of those who are "randomly selected" for precheck appear clueless. I'm wondering if there is an algorithm that says this person is unlikely to be able to follow directions to get through airport security in an effecient manner, therefore they are unlikely to be able to actually be a threat. It's so odd that the TSA is eliminating this when the numbers there are randomly selected seem so high in a lot of places that they overwhelm those actually enrolled in the program.