New service MIA - FRA in 2015
Oct 16, 2014, 2:29 pm
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Agree 100% on the ugliness however having flown (and showered) in F on Emirates I'll take it over any other aircraft in the sky any day.
Oct 16, 2014, 2:33 pm
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OTOH and off topic, I really like the quietness, spaciousness and accommodations on Qantas' A380 J forward upper deck mini-cabin.
But back to the topic. It has been mentioned that high-value cargo (in one instance, tons of lobsters) might be part of the reason to fly this route.
But back to the topic. It has been mentioned that high-value cargo (in one instance, tons of lobsters) might be part of the reason to fly this route.
Oct 16, 2014, 2:39 pm
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And yes, the addition of a second daily LHR flight from CLT is the practical substitute for the second daily CLT-FRA flight.
No matter how you slice it, CLT won't have two daily flights to FRA.
Oct 16, 2014, 2:44 pm
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Oct 16, 2014, 2:51 pm
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For a European airline, LH has South America pretty well covered. The flights from Germany to Brazil, for example, are about the same stage length as a flight from Germany to MIA. So I'm not sure why someone would want to add on several more hours of travel time (particularly if on business) to connect in MIA. The advantage AA has over LH, is the FF base in MIA, in addition to the numerous connections to the Carribean, Mexico, and Central America.
Oct 16, 2014, 3:17 pm
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But LH also has many advantages in FRA that AA does not.
While I agree that the A380 is a hideous object to look at from the outside, once on board the LH product is generally superior.
In order to make this work AA will need to offer at least a 772 or 787. The 767 isn't going to command much premium business and barring the use of a 77W LH should be unaffected in F.
In order to make this work AA will need to offer at least a 772 or 787. The 767 isn't going to command much premium business and barring the use of a 77W LH should be unaffected in F.
Oct 16, 2014, 3:48 pm
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But LH also has many advantages in FRA that AA does not.
While I agree that the A380 is a hideous object to look at from the outside, once on board the LH product is generally superior.
In order to make this work AA will need to offer at least a 772 or 787. The 767 isn't going to command much premium business and barring the use of a 77W LH should be unaffected in F.
While I agree that the A380 is a hideous object to look at from the outside, once on board the LH product is generally superior.
In order to make this work AA will need to offer at least a 772 or 787. The 767 isn't going to command much premium business and barring the use of a 77W LH should be unaffected in F.
Oct 16, 2014, 4:13 pm
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I am aware of that shortcoming. In fact, I believe the new AA J hard product on the 777s is better than even the new LH J product being fitted to the 380s. But the difference in brand reputation is a difficult hurdle for AA to overcome in what are realistically two international markets (MIA and FRA).
Oct 16, 2014, 7:19 pm
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I am aware of that shortcoming. In fact, I believe the new AA J hard product on the 777s is better than even the new LH J product being fitted to the 380s. But the difference in brand reputation is a difficult hurdle for AA to overcome in what are realistically two international markets (MIA and FRA).
As for aircraft deployments based on looks - I can hope
Till then, I just avoid the A319 and A380.
Oct 16, 2014, 7:30 pm
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AA 77D J certainly beats LH refub A380 J in the window section's step-over factor and privacy.
Oct 16, 2014, 8:59 pm
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LH's new business class is a major disappointment. Absolutely no privacy. LH would need to be significantly cheaper for me to choose it over AA's 1-2-1 configuration. Travelling F however would be a whole different story. LH's F product is vastly superior to AA's.
Oct 16, 2014, 9:03 pm
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Absolutely.
Oct 24, 2014, 12:28 pm
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As airberlin is withdrawing Miami-Berlin TXL in May, this will add some oneworld metal via FRA connecting to other German destinations (including Berlin).
(AB is strengthening other US frequencies between DUS and JFK, LAX and ORD.)
(AB is strengthening other US frequencies between DUS and JFK, LAX and ORD.)
Oct 24, 2014, 1:14 pm
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I expect AB to re-enter the Miami/LA-Berlin markets with BER opens.
Oct 24, 2014, 1:56 pm
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According to an article in today's (10/16) Miami Herald, it is reported that in a Miami meeting yesterday with Doug Parker and the editors of the Miami Herald and other journalists, Doug Parker announced that AA will begin new non-stop service to FRA from MIA in the first half of 2015.
Marilyn Devoe, Vice President (MIA)said that AA has plans to expand further at MIA and that another 7 gates are available in Concourse E.
They also quelled local speculation of a non-stop flight MIA-Asia due to the very limited number of aircraft currently that could make that trip. The much rumored (here at Flyertalk) new route MIA - TLV was apparently not asked about nor volunteered.
Marilyn Devoe, Vice President (MIA)said that AA has plans to expand further at MIA and that another 7 gates are available in Concourse E.
They also quelled local speculation of a non-stop flight MIA-Asia due to the very limited number of aircraft currently that could make that trip. The much rumored (here at Flyertalk) new route MIA - TLV was apparently not asked about nor volunteered.
