Cabin wall panels "buckle" on AA 2293 Oct 13
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Cabin wall panels "buckle" on AA 2293 Oct 13
Mechanical problem causes diversion:
http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2014/10/...cabin-buckles/
https://twitter.com/ArthurSimondet/s...463616/photo/1
http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2014/10/...cabin-buckles/
https://twitter.com/ArthurSimondet/s...463616/photo/1
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I'm waiting to get more info (like a picture of the outside of the fuselage) before I make a judgement. Could be something serious (like a near- United 811 or Aloha 243), or it could just be that the inner panel came loose (more likely).
Glad everyone's alright.
Glad everyone's alright.
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757 lost cabin pressure, says FAA:
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...279066061.html
With photos.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...279066061.html
With photos.
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Some conflicting info, as SFGate blog says "American Airlines spokesman Matt Miller said an “air duct issue” caused the interior wall panels of the cabin to come loose. There was no depressurization in the cabin, he said."
Still developing...
Still developing...
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Probably no depressurization.
FlightAware track log does not indicate a quick descent to 10,000 feet.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A.../KSFO/tracklog
Also, the on-board picture does not show oxygen masks hanging from the PSU's.
MO
FlightAware track log does not indicate a quick descent to 10,000 feet.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A.../KSFO/tracklog
Also, the on-board picture does not show oxygen masks hanging from the PSU's.
MO
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The NBC article has been changed:
The Federal Aviation Administration said earlier the plane had lost cabin pressure. Miller said the cabin never lost pressure and "oxygen masks were never deployed."
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As required by the FT Rules, the thread title has been amended to reflect the cabin wall panels "buckled", not the cabin.
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The NBC article has yet again been amended.
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The NBC article has yet again been amended.
(in part) An American Airlines flight from San Francisco to Dallas had to make an emergency landing at SFO after [hl]panels inside the plane's cabin [hl/]began to come apart in mid-air, the airline confirmed Monday afternoon.
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Nice. Does it seem to others that the wall gap widens while pictured in the video?
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Cabin wall panels are functional and not structural. The first time I saw cabin panel deformation was ona Pan Am 747-200, over thirty years ago. Though alarming in appearance, it poses little life risk to passengers. If it did the flight likely would have squawked emergency, descended to a lower altitude and landed at the nearest airport capable of handling it - RNO or SMF perhaps - and not returned to SFO.
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Cabin wall panels are functional and not structural. The first time I saw cabin panel deformation was ona Pan Am 747-200, over thirty years ago. Though alarming in appearance, it poses little life risk to passengers. If it did the flight likely would have squawked emergency, descended to a lower altitude and landed at the nearest airport capable of handling it - RNO or SMF perhaps - and not returned to SFO.
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Cabin wall panels are functional and not structural. The first time I saw cabin panel deformation was ona Pan Am 747-200, over thirty years ago. Though alarming in appearance, it poses little life risk to passengers. If it did the flight likely would have squawked emergency, descended to a lower altitude and landed at the nearest airport capable of handling it - RNO or SMF perhaps - and not returned to SFO.
"American Flight 2293 depressurized and started coming apart mid air," Wilson wrote. "Please pray for us."
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Understand that cabin wall panels are more of decorative and not part of a structural integrity of an aircraft. But I think it is easy for us to do Monday morning quarterback.
When passengers on board saw panels coming off during the flight, even if passengers did understand that panels have nothing to do with structural integrity of an aircraft, there was no way for passengers on board to know during the flight that was the only thing going on.
Isn't the reason FAA said the aircraft will be inspected before returning to the flight to make sure there was nothing else went on during the flight?
When passengers on board saw panels coming off during the flight, even if passengers did understand that panels have nothing to do with structural integrity of an aircraft, there was no way for passengers on board to know during the flight that was the only thing going on.
Isn't the reason FAA said the aircraft will be inspected before returning to the flight to make sure there was nothing else went on during the flight?
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<redacted> It does serve as a warning though to not necessarily accept communications from passengers as evidence of the facts.
I'd also not rush to assumptions on the flight performance of the aircraft as the cause of the panel deformation doesn't seem to be conclusively verified yet and there may have not been anything at all wrong with what I would consider aircraft performance.
I'd also not rush to assumptions on the flight performance of the aircraft as the cause of the panel deformation doesn't seem to be conclusively verified yet and there may have not been anything at all wrong with what I would consider aircraft performance.
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