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Europe changes: Beginning winter 2014, AA plans seasonal adjustments to the European schedule:
Short Suspensions (MAH4546)
● ORD - Manchester / MAN suspended between January 6th and March 29th (MAN still served via PHL, JFK)
● PHL - Barcelona / BCN suspended between March 5th and March 29th (BCN still served via MIA, JFK)
● PHL - Rome / FCO suspended between February 5th and March 5th (FCO will not be served with AA metal during this time frame)
Winter Timetable Suspensions
● JFK-Dublin suspended between October 25th and March 29th (Dublin still served via PHL)
● ORD-Dusseldorf suspended between October 25th and March 29th (Dusseldorf will not be served during winter)
● PHL-Zurich suspended between October 25th and April 14th (ZRH still served via JFK)
Milan / MXP Service Temporarily Merged
● Milan / MXP service will alternate as a daily flight between Miami (3w) and JFK (4w) between January 6th and March 28th, after which both routes will go daily again.
Brazil changes:
1 Oct 2014, US discontinues CLT-GRU, channeling customers to AA's flights.
VCP flights added from MIA and JFK, adding services to São Paulo.
JFK-VCP begins 1 Dec 2014, three times a week; MIA-VCP will operate daily as of 2 Dec 2014, both with CIP Boeing 767-323ERs, fully flat beds.
All GRU flights to / from JFK, MIA and DFW will be operated by Boeing 777-323ER / 77W by Dec 2014.
(AA PR Newswire, 31 Jul 2014)
(lower right wiki corner)Europe changes: Beginning winter 2014, AA plans seasonal adjustments to the European schedule:
Short Suspensions (MAH4546)
● ORD - Manchester / MAN suspended between January 6th and March 29th (MAN still served via PHL, JFK)
● PHL - Barcelona / BCN suspended between March 5th and March 29th (BCN still served via MIA, JFK)
● PHL - Rome / FCO suspended between February 5th and March 5th (FCO will not be served with AA metal during this time frame)
Winter Timetable Suspensions
● JFK-Dublin suspended between October 25th and March 29th (Dublin still served via PHL)
● ORD-Dusseldorf suspended between October 25th and March 29th (Dusseldorf will not be served during winter)
● PHL-Zurich suspended between October 25th and April 14th (ZRH still served via JFK)
Milan / MXP Service Temporarily Merged
● Milan / MXP service will alternate as a daily flight between Miami (3w) and JFK (4w) between January 6th and March 28th, after which both routes will go daily again.
Code:
U.S. Gateway Dest Suspend Resume JFK DUB 25 Oct 14 29 Mar 15 ORD DUS 25 Oct 14 29 Mar 15 PHL ZRH 25 Oct 14 14 Apr 15 ORD MAN 06 Jan 14? 29 Mar 15 PHL FCO 05 Feb 15 05 Mar 15 PHL BCN 05 Mar 15 29 Mar 15
Brazil changes:
1 Oct 2014, US discontinues CLT-GRU, channeling customers to AA's flights.
VCP flights added from MIA and JFK, adding services to São Paulo.
JFK-VCP begins 1 Dec 2014, three times a week; MIA-VCP will operate daily as of 2 Dec 2014, both with CIP Boeing 767-323ERs, fully flat beds.
All GRU flights to / from JFK, MIA and DFW will be operated by Boeing 777-323ER / 77W by Dec 2014.
(AA PR Newswire, 31 Jul 2014)
Changes to Long-Haul Schedule Announced 31 Jul '14 for AA/US (merged threads)
Aug 27, 2014, 7:34 am
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AA starts service between VCP and MIA/NYC (subject to govt approval??)
http://airlineroute.net/2014/08/26/aa-vcp-dec14/
I found several flights starting in December between Sao Paulo's VCP airport and NYC's JFK Airport as well as Miami Airport. They all say "Service between SAO and NYC is subject to government approval". Why do I need government approval to fly between Sao Paulo and NYC?
I found several flights starting in December between Sao Paulo's VCP airport and NYC's JFK Airport as well as Miami Airport. They all say "Service between SAO and NYC is subject to government approval". Why do I need government approval to fly between Sao Paulo and NYC?
Last edited by wiivile; Aug 27, 2014 at 9:50 am
Aug 27, 2014, 8:15 am
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You don't; the airline does.
When it comes to international flights, each country gets to decide what to allow. If Brazil wants a Brazilian carrier to be able to fly a new route to the U.S., Brazil might not permit a U.S. carrier to fly a new route to Brazil until the U.S. allows the Brazilian carrier to fly a new route. Or vice versa.
You don't; the airline does.
When it comes to international flights, each country gets to decide what to allow. If Brazil wants a Brazilian carrier to be able to fly a new route to the U.S., Brazil might not permit a U.S. carrier to fly a new route to Brazil until the U.S. allows the Brazilian carrier to fly a new route. Or vice versa.
Aug 27, 2014, 8:43 am
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At least in Brazil (I'm not sure about the US), the regulator (ANAC) must approve ("conceder a licença") for all flights, domestic and international alike, as it is a public concession.
Aug 27, 2014, 8:58 am
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This is true worldwide. Few countries grant a carrier landing rights without an approval process. All this means is that you should understand that if the government does not approve the landing rights, the route goes away.
"You" only need approval if you are a carrier !
"You" only need approval if you are a carrier !
Aug 27, 2014, 10:29 am
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As American Airlines and US Airways are still operating as distinct airlines, this question is being moved to the appropriate pre-merger airline forum (where these flights have been discussed) and merged into that thread (a member has brought the specific thread to the moderators' attention - thanks).
Please note the sticky at the top of the consolidated thread which is titled PLEASE READ ME BEFORE POSTING! Welcome to the New American Airlines Forum!. With all of the changes about, it is important to know where to post, and reading that thread before posting (as the title suggests
) will help get you in the right place.
~Moderator
Please note the sticky at the top of the consolidated thread which is titled PLEASE READ ME BEFORE POSTING! Welcome to the New American Airlines Forum!. With all of the changes about, it is important to know where to post, and reading that thread before posting (as the title suggests
) will help get you in the right place.~Moderator
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Aug 27, 2014, 10:48 am
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More true than it used to be, with CA/US/EU open skies!
Aug 29, 2014, 8:12 am
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I am confused by the decision to change several NYC routes from GRU to VCP. VCP is really inconvenient for most travelers to Sao Paulo and is a few hours away from the city center of Sao Paulo.
A lot of people flying to Sao Paulo may not realize that VCP is very far from Sao Paulo (city).
A lot of people flying to Sao Paulo may not realize that VCP is very far from Sao Paulo (city).
Dec 8, 2014, 11:16 am
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I am confused by the decision to change several NYC routes from GRU to VCP. VCP is really inconvenient for most travelers to Sao Paulo and is a few hours away from the city center of Sao Paulo.
A lot of people flying to Sao Paulo may not realize that VCP is very far from Sao Paulo (city).
A lot of people flying to Sao Paulo may not realize that VCP is very far from Sao Paulo (city).