77W / 777-300ER pilot rest; is a seat blocked?
May 21, 2014, 9:03 pm
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77W / 777-300ER pilot rest; is a seat blocked?
Does AA still block off a seat of the 3rd pilot in FC on long flights? LAX-LHR & DFW-HKG)
On planes with 16 F seats, its not so bad, on a 77W with 8 FC seats its another story...
On planes with 16 F seats, its not so bad, on a 77W with 8 FC seats its another story...
May 21, 2014, 9:52 pm
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The 77W has two or three bunks above FC for pilot/crew use. With only 8 FC seats they do not allocated one for pilots.
May 22, 2014, 2:56 am
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As American Airlines is still operating as a distinct entity, this question is being moved over to the pre-merger American Airlines forum.
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May 23, 2014, 4:46 pm
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Why would they block F seats for crew/employee use? That is as dumb as giving away free upgrades to elites. Those seats should be sold, period. No employee or elite should get them for free. This is business 101.
May 23, 2014, 5:07 pm
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May 23, 2014, 5:17 pm
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Where else would you like them to sleep when there's no crew rest area?
The 772s do not have a rest area for the pilots, so they get a first class seat (as is stated in their contract.) The 77W does have bunks for the pilots, so it isn't necessary to block a seat (and with only 8F seats, it would be very unwise to do so.)
You're making a very big deal out of common practice on most airlines all over the globe. Plenty of airlines block a J seat for pilots or a block of Y seats in the rear of the cabin for FA's, it's normal.
I do however think that giving the Pilots an F seat is a bit much (J should be good enough), but it's in the contract.
For those of you in the know, I believe I had read that the new contract allowed J seats instead of F seats. Is this correct, or am I mixing up my airlines?
The 772s do not have a rest area for the pilots, so they get a first class seat (as is stated in their contract.) The 77W does have bunks for the pilots, so it isn't necessary to block a seat (and with only 8F seats, it would be very unwise to do so.)
You're making a very big deal out of common practice on most airlines all over the globe. Plenty of airlines block a J seat for pilots or a block of Y seats in the rear of the cabin for FA's, it's normal.
I do however think that giving the Pilots an F seat is a bit much (J should be good enough), but it's in the contract.
For those of you in the know, I believe I had read that the new contract allowed J seats instead of F seats. Is this correct, or am I mixing up my airlines?
May 23, 2014, 5:43 pm
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Wow, just really surprised. I did not know this was in their contract or a common practice. What about flight crews? Do they get F seats too?
May 23, 2014, 6:33 pm
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The 772 does have a crew rest above the FC cabin. The pilots negotiated and AA accepted a clause that gives them seats in F.
Originally Posted by Djokison
Where else would you like them to sleep when there's no crew rest area?
The 772s do not have a rest area for the pilots, so they get a first class seat (as is stated in their contract.) The 77W does have bunks for the pilots, so it isn't necessary to block a seat (and with only 8F seats, it would be very unwise to do so.)
You're making a very big deal out of common practice on most airlines all over the globe. Plenty of airlines block a J seat for pilots or a block of Y seats in the rear of the cabin for FA's, it's normal.
I do however think that giving the Pilots an F seat is a bit much (J should be good enough), but it's in the contract.
For those of you in the know, I believe I had read that the new contract allowed J seats instead of F seats. Is this correct, or am I mixing up my airlines?
The 772s do not have a rest area for the pilots, so they get a first class seat (as is stated in their contract.) The 77W does have bunks for the pilots, so it isn't necessary to block a seat (and with only 8F seats, it would be very unwise to do so.)
You're making a very big deal out of common practice on most airlines all over the globe. Plenty of airlines block a J seat for pilots or a block of Y seats in the rear of the cabin for FA's, it's normal.
I do however think that giving the Pilots an F seat is a bit much (J should be good enough), but it's in the contract.
For those of you in the know, I believe I had read that the new contract allowed J seats instead of F seats. Is this correct, or am I mixing up my airlines?
May 24, 2014, 12:22 am
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The 772 does have a crew rest above the FC cabin. The pilots negotiated and AA accepted a clause that gives them seats in F.
The 772 does have a crew rest above the FC cabin. The pilots negotiated and AA accepted a clause that gives them seats in F.