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diverdsk Feb 18, 2003 11:57 pm

Do AA FA's clean bathrooms? Serious Question.
 
I know this sounds like a silly question, but has anyone ever seen a FA clean the washroom during a flight? I see them going in and out of there, briefly, and I assume they are checking on supplies, etc.

There have been a few times I wanted to use the restroom, but someone had literally soiled it.

Maybe this isn't the job responsibility of the FA's? I have no idea. I just wish I could use a clean bathroom when I'm 5 hours into my flight to London, etc.

chuck1 Feb 19, 2003 1:08 am

Unlike other carriers, such as SQ or CX, where the flight attendants practically try and clean the lav after every passenger, AA doesn't seem to have this policy. At least I have not seen it on domestic or international and I am EXP.

Guy Betsy Feb 19, 2003 1:25 am

Where Asian carriers' crew include them as part of their duty to tidy up and sometimes clean the loos... I think you can blame it on the unions that say somewhere in the contracts that the FAs are there for your safety and taking a toilet brush to hand is not one of their duties.

Please... they hardly have time to even make you a proper cup of tea. I think it is way beneath them to even suggest that they stock another roll of loo paper by the potty.

MADD Feb 19, 2003 2:38 am

What about cleaning up after someone **** on the floor? Should the passengers have to clean it?

greg Feb 19, 2003 6:27 am

US carrier FAs do not do lavs. In fact, several times I've used the lavs just after FAs (AA, UA... they're all the same) and had to clean up after them. We're talking dirty sinks, wet floors, tissues on the counter. I always clean and shine up the lav after using it: Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. On a recent SQ trip, can confirm that the FAs regularly clean and resupply the lavs- the toiletry drawers were always full of toothbrushes/paste; combs; and shaving kits, and I never walked into a dirty, smelly lav through four different 10-hour plus flights.

oldpenny16 Feb 19, 2003 6:41 am

AA flight attendants do not clean lavs. If a lav gets to a horrible state, they just make it 'out of service'. When I've asked about this, I've been told that they aren't allowed to do this because they serve food!

The BA flight attendants do even less.

wigstheone Feb 19, 2003 6:44 am

Worst experience was walking into the F lav transcon after Wesley Snipes. I have no idea what he was doing in there, but suffice it to say, there was water (at least I hope it was water) all over the floor, walls and even ceiling. I do not believe anyone, including Wesley, used that lav the rest of the flight.

SST Feb 19, 2003 8:33 am

Actually, some AA FA's *DO* do lavs, whether they're required to do so or not.

I was on Monday's ORD-SFO mid-afternoon 767 (sitting in the coach "business class" section), and the one loo at the back center had been disgustingly littered with paper towels all over the place. (Beats me what the occupant had been up to, or what barn s/he was born in). As I got up to go there, the FA said "if you can wait just a second, I'd like to try and tidy up in there..." and picked it all up. As she emerged with a plastic bag, I said "it takes all kinds" and she smiled and said "not everybody's as polite as they should be."

It was a nice professional touch by somebody who seemed to care about the product. I'm sure they don't have to, but here, at least, was somebody who wanted things presentable.


maisany Feb 19, 2003 9:43 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by wigstheone:
Worst experience was walking into the F lav transcon after Wesley Snipes. I have no idea what he was doing in there, but suffice it to say, there was water (at least I hope it was water) all over the floor, walls and even ceiling. I do not believe anyone, including Wesley, used that lav the rest of the flight.</font>
Perhaps he was wrestling with international terrorist, Charles Rane and knocked over the softsoap?

It probably is a union thing, but not necessarily the union that you are thinking of. Its quite possible that they are either explicitly or implicitly forbidden from performing this funciton by the ground crew unions. It's their ricebowl, after all.

Personally, I think its every person's responsibility to leave the lavs in as spotless a condition as possible when they leave, even Mr. Snipes. Why are these people allowed out in public without the smallest hint of common courtesy or manners?

But don't get me started on restroom etiquette. Its my firm belief that those automatic flushers are the prime contributors to the fall of civilization.

Paulo Feb 19, 2003 11:22 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by oldpenny16:
AA flight attendants do not clean lavs. If a lav gets to a horrible state, they just make it 'out of service'. When I've asked about this, I've been told that they aren't allowed to do this because they serve food!

The BA flight attendants do even less.
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I can echo the statement about BA. I once told a BA FA (LHR-JFK) that a lav toilet was overflowing. I did not expect her to clean it up, but just to close it off. Her response: "That's not my job."

Quite an American attitude - I can see OneWorld's influences loud and clear.

onedog Feb 19, 2003 12:31 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by SST:
Actually, some AA FA's *DO* do lavs, whether they're required to do so or not.

I was on Monday's ORD-SFO mid-afternoon 767 (sitting in the coach "business class" section), and the one loo at the back center had been disgustingly littered with paper towels all over the place. (Beats me what the occupant had been up to, or what barn s/he was born in). As I got up to go there, the FA said "if you can wait just a second, I'd like to try and tidy up in there..." and picked it all up. As she emerged with a plastic bag, I said "it takes all kinds" and she smiled and said "not everybody's as polite as they should be."

It was a nice professional touch by somebody who seemed to care about the product. I'm sure they don't have to, but here, at least, was somebody who wanted things presentable.

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This type of person would deserve an SOS if the program hadn't been discontinued. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif

clacko Feb 19, 2003 1:05 pm

at times, it seems that fa's don't do s--t..

emoraver Feb 19, 2003 1:48 pm

even though i'm sure no one flies klm (they aren't even oneworld!) - i just had to add this tidbit.

i was flyin in business, the top of the 747 from ams-jfk and both toilets were repulsive... and they stayed that way the whole trip. (which is one of the many reasons i won't fly klm again - although some AA fa's are getting to be as ornery as those on klm)

JSD Feb 19, 2003 1:57 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by clacko:
at times, it seems that fa's don't do s--t..</font>
LOL!! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif Pun intended, I assume?

PradaFA Feb 19, 2003 5:24 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by MADD:
What about cleaning up after someone **** on the floor? Should the passengers have to clean it? </font>
Yes -- the passenger that left the mess, should be the one cleaning it up. I still can't believe people are too lazy or disgusting to flush a toilet, throw away paper towels, or clean up bodily fluids.

[This message has been edited by PradaFA (edited 02-19-2003).]


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