Why is row 3 really the first row?
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Why is row 3 really the first row?
I'm curious: on the MD80, why is the first row in first class numbered as row 3? It simply seems strange to me!
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THEORY 1:
The rows are numbered in descending order from the first row of economy.
You can only fit so many rows of first in before hitting the loo. If they were all-economy, then there would be a row 1.
THEORY 2:
In times of national emergency, the loo is removed and the extra two rows put in for troop carrying.
THEORY 3:
If you look at the seat runners to which the seats are attached, you'll find the loo takes up the first two notches, with the first row of seats occupying the third position.
THEORY 4:
Americans are sufficiently up themselves so that having one sit in row one would make them truly unmanageable.
Any more?
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Glen,
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The rows are numbered in descending order from the first row of economy.
You can only fit so many rows of first in before hitting the loo. If they were all-economy, then there would be a row 1.
THEORY 2:
In times of national emergency, the loo is removed and the extra two rows put in for troop carrying.
THEORY 3:
If you look at the seat runners to which the seats are attached, you'll find the loo takes up the first two notches, with the first row of seats occupying the third position.
THEORY 4:
Americans are sufficiently up themselves so that having one sit in row one would make them truly unmanageable.
Any more?
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Glen,
QFAA
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My theory is that the old Reno Air planes have more rows of F than the AA configurations.
In order to keep numbering consistent (and not skip rows), the AA planes have to start with 3 and end with 6 so that both coach sets can start with 7.
I'm sure this makes life easier for folks who end up with an unexpected equipment swap.
In order to keep numbering consistent (and not skip rows), the AA planes have to start with 3 and end with 6 so that both coach sets can start with 7.
I'm sure this makes life easier for folks who end up with an unexpected equipment swap.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by techgirl:
My theory is that the old Reno Air planes have more rows of F than the AA configurations.</font>
My theory is that the old Reno Air planes have more rows of F than the AA configurations.</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by studley:
Didn't AA retire all the ex-QQ aircraft last year?
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Didn't AA retire all the ex-QQ aircraft last year?
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I think they would still have a hard time renumbering the flights so quickly though... they sell tickets some 300-plus days out.
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The answer is simple. Row 2 is the lav, and Row 1 is where the drivers sit.
Which is why I always recommend Seat 2A on the S80 to people I don't like.
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Which is why I always recommend Seat 2A on the S80 to people I don't like.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by FewMiles:
The answer is simple. Row 2 is the lav, and Row 1 is where the drivers sit.
Which is why I always recommend Seat 2A on the S80 to people I don't like.
FewMiles..
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The answer is simple. Row 2 is the lav, and Row 1 is where the drivers sit.
Which is why I always recommend Seat 2A on the S80 to people I don't like.
FewMiles..
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To be more serious, I think the S-80 used to have more rows in F. Look at the old TWA planes, and you'd see they have 2 fewer F seats than the AA S-80's.
For the 757's, there's row 1, but it jumps from row 6 to row 9 when going between F and Y.
In the whole AA fleet, I think the only aircraft type which actually have contiguous row numbering starting from 1 is the A300.