MERGER: US and AA Dec 9 2013 implications for AA flyers (new)

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Old Dec 1, 13, 11:26 am
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MERGER: US and AA Dec 9 2013 implications for AA flyers (new)

The arguments and discussion pro- and con- the possible airline merger, a reverse takeover of AA by US, are over.

The US Department of Justice's objections have been satisfied, the bankruptcy court has approved, a joint airlines committee has been working behind the scenes for some time, etc. The merger is scheduled to occur 9 December 2013, and it has been stated no major changes impacting passengers will be forthcoming during the holiday period.

Mr. Doug Parker, US' CEO, previously the HP (America West) CEO who headed HP's reverse takeover of US, will be CEO of what is being touted as "the new American", headquartered in the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex.

This new thread has been opened to discuss the ramifications and impact of the merger on, currently, AA flyers.

Please: keep it respectful, on topic and free of dilatory content disruptive to the topic.

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N.B. The previous discussion thread regarding a putative merger, pros, cons, DOJ actions, etc., "AA - US Merger Agreement / Announcement / DOJ Action Discussion (consolidated)"can be found here.

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Old Dec 1, 13, 11:28 am
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We need to agree on an acronym for this new entity.

I nominate UScAAre.
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Old Dec 1, 13, 12:06 pm
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That's not bad. HPdbaAA seems popular, too.
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Old Dec 1, 13, 12:33 pm
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IT Fears

The obvious fear is AA being sucked into the US Airways IT system, which I believe to be the case, we all read the stories of the debacle ensuing America West absorbing US Air into its IT system (cancellatiosn, ticketing issues, FF issues etc...). AA is much larger and more complex than the old US Air. If Doug Parker and team are not on top of the IT issue I see a customer service disaster coming soon.
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Old Dec 1, 13, 1:18 pm
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Haven't we read US is migrating to AA's system? (We can only hope "Ventana" heals soon, and that it's part of the preparation required for the upcoming systems integration.)
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Old Dec 1, 13, 1:20 pm
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what about CactAAs
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what about CactAAs
cAActUS?
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Old Dec 1, 13, 1:30 pm
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We need to agree on an acronym for this new entity.
Actually, we don't. AA is fine, or its new ticker symbol, AAL, would work also.
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Old Dec 1, 13, 1:36 pm
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Actually, we don't. AA is fine, or its new ticker symbol, AAL, would work also.
Agreed. When we need to distinguish the former entities PMAA and PMUS will do fine.
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Old Dec 1, 13, 1:41 pm
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My preference is that any cute names, especially for Mr. Parker, will be avoided.
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PAArker?

They have confirmed in interviews that they will be migrating US over to Sabre. (pm-pmUS used Sabre but migrated to pm-pmHP's shares platform after their merger).
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Old Dec 1, 13, 3:36 pm
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My preference is that any cute names, especially for Mr. Parker, will be avoided.
I agree. I'm tired of it already.

I also think the title of this thread is a bit over the top.
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Old Dec 1, 13, 4:52 pm
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I agree. I'm tired of it already.

I also think the title of this thread is a bit over the top.
It is also incorrect in that this is not by the usual definition a "reverse takeover". A reverse takeover is generally used by a privately-held company to go public by taking over an existing publicly-traded company. This is legally a merger of two corporations and should be referred to as such.
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Old Dec 1, 13, 4:55 pm
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It is also incorrect in that this is not by the usual definition a "reverse takeover". A reverse takeover is generally used by a privately-held company to go public by taking over an existing publicly-traded company. This is legally a merger of two corporations and should be referred to as such.
Oh, why go around confusing things by using correct terminology and facts.

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Old Dec 1, 13, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by sonofzeus View Post
We need to agree on an acronym for this new entity.

I nominate UScAAre.
You can nominate this as long as I get credit for introducing this term all those months ago when AA dropped the BK ball on us.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20242440-post76.html

UPDATE: This may be the earliest mention of it - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20236693-post3637.html

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