Why can I not see the upgrade list on the PC website?
Jul 26, 2013, 3:17 pm
#1
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Why can I not see the upgrade list on the PC website?
I can see it via the mobile AA app, but I can't see it on the website. Where do I find this information? Is it only on the mobile app?
Jul 26, 2013, 3:19 pm
#2
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What has lead you to believe that this is supposed to be on the website?
Cheers.
Cheers.
Jul 26, 2013, 4:00 pm
#4
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Well it does show up on the mobile app so it would follow that it would be on the website. But it is not. I would guess that they purpose built the mobile app (and they continue to upgrade it) with the intention of showing the upgrade and standby lists. Today I saw on the mobile app that I had cleared my standby and went up to the counter as she was calling my name.
Jul 26, 2013, 4:21 pm
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Cynical me says that they don't want it on the website to give you a reason to install the app, which grants AA snooping powers it would otherwise not have.
On Android, these include:
Frankly, I don't understand why these permissions are needed for us to use the app. In addition, AA's app also request permission to catalog network connections such as which networks exist and are connected, both mobile and Wi-Fi, plus some potentially useful ones (but are they used by the app?) such as your precise location.
Creepy.
On Android, these include:
- read phone state and identity - Allows the app to access the phone features of the device. This permission allows the app to determine the phone number and device IDs, whether a call is active, and the remote number connected by a call.
- retrieve running applications - Allows the app to get information about currently and recently running tasks. This may allow the app to discover information about which applications are used on the device.
Frankly, I don't understand why these permissions are needed for us to use the app. In addition, AA's app also request permission to catalog network connections such as which networks exist and are connected, both mobile and Wi-Fi, plus some potentially useful ones (but are they used by the app?) such as your precise location.
Creepy.
Jul 26, 2013, 4:50 pm
#6
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Don't forget that this is a very recent change to the mobile app; before the only place you could see the list was on the gate display
Jul 26, 2013, 9:45 pm
#7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brp
What has lead you to believe that this is supposed to be on the website?
Cheers.
Well it does show up on the mobile app so it would follow that it would be on the website. But it is not. I would guess that they purpose built the mobile app (and they continue to upgrade it) with the intention of showing the upgrade and standby lists. Today I saw on the mobile app that I had cleared my standby and went up to the counter as she was calling my name.
Originally Posted by brp
What has lead you to believe that this is supposed to be on the website?
Cheers.
Well it does show up on the mobile app so it would follow that it would be on the website. But it is not. I would guess that they purpose built the mobile app (and they continue to upgrade it) with the intention of showing the upgrade and standby lists. Today I saw on the mobile app that I had cleared my standby and went up to the counter as she was calling my name.
Jul 26, 2013, 10:34 pm
#8
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Would guess that since it is only displayed within 4 hours of flight departure that most people would only need it on their mobile as for the majority of the time -- and especially in the last hour to hour and a half when things start to heat up, you probably only have mobile access. Just a thought. I know there will be some people that say they carry a powered up laptop all the way to the end.
Jul 27, 2013, 9:34 am
#9
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Mobile computing is the way of the future. Long gone are the days of lugging that laptop out. I'm happy with just having the mobile app as I pretty much just go to my smartphone for most things now.
Jul 27, 2013, 10:23 am
#10
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Finding the cheapest flight is still a pain on my phone. I prefer the computer for that.
Jul 27, 2013, 1:01 pm
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Of course, Apple did dumb her down.
Originally, if you asked Siri which cell phone was the best, she would tell you which model had the best reviews. Now she has programmed answers to that question. If you find yourself with free time, start talking to her.. if you have an iPhone. Ask her to marry you, multiple times. Check out the responses.
Jul 27, 2013, 4:20 pm
#12
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Cynical me says that they don't want it on the website to give you a reason to install the app, which grants AA snooping powers it would otherwise not have.
On Android, these include:
Frankly, I don't understand why these permissions are needed for us to use the app. In addition, AA's app also request permission to catalog network connections such as which networks exist and are connected, both mobile and Wi-Fi, plus some potentially useful ones (but are they used by the app?) such as your precise location.
Creepy.
On Android, these include:
- read phone state and identity - Allows the app to access the phone features of the device. This permission allows the app to determine the phone number and device IDs, whether a call is active, and the remote number connected by a call.
- retrieve running applications - Allows the app to get information about currently and recently running tasks. This may allow the app to discover information about which applications are used on the device.
Frankly, I don't understand why these permissions are needed for us to use the app. In addition, AA's app also request permission to catalog network connections such as which networks exist and are connected, both mobile and Wi-Fi, plus some potentially useful ones (but are they used by the app?) such as your precise location.
Creepy.
It is certainly possible that they request/use permissions for nefarious purposes, but it is more likely that they are just requesting the access that they need to ensure that the app functions properly. Reading the phone state and being able to interact with other open apps is fairly standard.
Jul 27, 2013, 9:01 pm
#13
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Just because a particular permission allows certain access does not mean that the app uses/abuses everything the permission grants. Most apps have access to the phone state and identity so that they can respond appropriately if a call comes in while the app is open.
It is certainly possible that they request/use permissions for nefarious purposes, but it is more likely that they are just requesting the access that they need to ensure that the app functions properly. Reading the phone state and being able to interact with other open apps is fairly standard.
It is certainly possible that they request/use permissions for nefarious purposes, but it is more likely that they are just requesting the access that they need to ensure that the app functions properly. Reading the phone state and being able to interact with other open apps is fairly standard.
Your comment made me check the permissions of the only other airline app I have installed, the one from BA. Turns out that it works just fine with two simple permissions: network access and control vibration. Nothing about knowing my phone number, what other apps I use, where I am located, what networks I am connected to and I can see.
So call me cynical, but I can't see why the AA app wouldn't work just like the BA app does without them -- if AA requests the permission to know all of this other unrelated stuff about me, it's not because they are NEEDED to run the app.
Creepy.
Jul 28, 2013, 11:57 pm
#14
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I had a flight on Saturday and could not find the upgrade list on my AA app on Iphone. I made sure I had the newest version of the app but still no luck.
