Booze-Plane Count?
Mar 19, 2013, 3:46 pm
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I am really in the wrong line of work. I could make a fortune making and selling designer tin-foil hats.
Mar 19, 2013, 4:03 pm
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My buddies William and John noticed this at separate times.
I think they were just a bit zoned out.
Mar 19, 2013, 7:48 pm
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You should have drank the vodka as it appears you were detoxing and seeing things that really weren't there.
Mar 20, 2013, 3:43 am
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I find it interesting, I haven't had a FA give me the mini's in a long time, in fact I was explained that they (the FA's) are not allowed to give the PAX the mini's just for this reason.. BTW, if you wanted a virgin BM, you could have asked for it, instead you asked for a BM and that it was served.. I'm betting your intention was to take the mini's in the first place. BTW, there is a reaon why taking medication daily is needed...
Mar 20, 2013, 5:24 am
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Yes. The word "theft" comes to mind. AA is not in the business of giving away alcohol to pax, except to the extent that it is consumed on board. How does taking alcohol differ from taking other consumables, like, say, the steak you decided not to eat (you do carry Tupperware when you fly, right?) or hangers out of the closet or that extra roll of toilet paper in the lavatory?
The FAs who do this are subject to discipline for theft if caught. And needless to say, this type of FA generosity with someone else's property certainly contributes to higher operating costs, and thus fares. A few minis may not seem like a lot, but figure how many are given out by generous FAs on a daily basis across the route network. 1,500+ flights per day. Say an average of three minis are given out on 10% of the flights. That's 450 minis daily. Say the average cost to AA is $2/bottle. $900/day, or well over $300K/year.
This happened to me not too long ago, but I didn't ask for anything "to go" -- the FA just left me a sick bag filled with Canadian Club Reserve bottles at my seat.
Another time from MIA to JFK, they ran out of Glenlivet, so I asked what else they had. The FA brought me 1 of each type of whisky. I picked one, and he brought me that type of whisky in a glass, leaving me with a handful of whisky to consume while waiting for my luggage at JFK
Another time from MIA to JFK, they ran out of Glenlivet, so I asked what else they had. The FA brought me 1 of each type of whisky. I picked one, and he brought me that type of whisky in a glass, leaving me with a handful of whisky to consume while waiting for my luggage at JFK
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Mar 20, 2013, 7:45 am
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Cheers.
Mar 20, 2013, 8:14 am
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that may be your view, but it's not AA's policy. Pax are not required to return any unused booze to the FA.
AA is in the business of (hopefully) providing great customer service to premium pax. That includes not being stingy with the minis.
FAs subject to discipline for giving away extra minis ? Not according to a friend who is a AA purser.
FAs subject to discipline for giving away extra minis ? Not according to a friend who is a AA purser.
Mar 20, 2013, 8:49 am
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Nothing like a good BM post in the morning with my coffee ::giggle::
Mar 20, 2013, 9:03 am
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Well, it depends upon who you're accusing of theft. In the context you quoted, this is incorrect. Taking the item that was given by an employee of the company does not constitute theft by the person taking it off the plane. No, IANAL, but I'm quite sure about this. The implications for the employee? That, I don't know.
Cheers.
Cheers.
I'd rather think of this question as dry humor rather than a serious question
Mar 20, 2013, 9:12 am
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But, as to the first, I think it would be quite easy to claim (and very believable) that the passenger didn't know the rules and was unaware of whether the FA was authorized to give the item. I think that this would mitigate any accessory charges.
Cheers.
Mar 20, 2013, 10:47 am
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Mar 20, 2013, 11:12 am
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I had my usual disaronno on the rocks inflight last week.
When I refused a top-up, the wonderful friendly FA suggested "one-for-the-road" which I happily accepted. (It is still in my 100ml liquids baggie!)
When I refused a top-up, the wonderful friendly FA suggested "one-for-the-road" which I happily accepted. (It is still in my 100ml liquids baggie!)
Mar 20, 2013, 11:20 am
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CAGE Questionnaire:
Have you ever felt you needed to Cut down on your drinking?
Have people Annoyed you by criticizing your drinking?
Have you ever felt Guilty about drinking?
Have you ever felt you needed a drink first thing in the morning (Eye-opener) to steady your nerves or to get rid of a hangover?
Have you ever felt you needed to Cut down on your drinking?
Have people Annoyed you by criticizing your drinking?
Have you ever felt Guilty about drinking?
Have you ever felt you needed a drink first thing in the morning (Eye-opener) to steady your nerves or to get rid of a hangover?
Mar 20, 2013, 1:12 pm
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that may be your view, but it's not AA's policy. Pax are not required to return any unused booze to the FA.
AA is in the business of (hopefully) providing great customer service to premium pax. That includes not being stingy with the minis.
FAs subject to discipline for giving away extra minis ? Not according to a friend who is a AA purser.
AA is in the business of (hopefully) providing great customer service to premium pax. That includes not being stingy with the minis.
FAs subject to discipline for giving away extra minis ? Not according to a friend who is a AA purser.
I imagine AA's liability dep't prioritizes lawful compliance over "great customer service," even if crews and passengers do not, in theory or in practice.
In reality, is it something they hammer down on? Maybe not.
Maybe only if they're already looking to discipline a FA.
But subject to discipline? I'd say, yes, and that your purser friend may want to refresh her understanding of the licensing laws.
Mar 20, 2013, 1:45 pm
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Booze. Ethics. Entitlement. This thread hits the trifecta.
My thoughts might hasten the demise of this "sober" discussion so I'll "abstain." Sometimes, it's best to defer to the genius of FT.
My thoughts might hasten the demise of this "sober" discussion so I'll "abstain." Sometimes, it's best to defer to the genius of FT.