Inaugural AA963 777-300ER / 77W DFW-GRU 31 Jan 2013 (photos)
Feb 1, 2013, 8:45 pm
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Feb 1, 2013, 8:49 pm
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The problem is that time and time again people vote with their wallet and show that you can't charge a premium for a coach seat and justify it on service/comfort grounds.
So the fare has to stay cheap and then you try to show that your cheap seat is better than the other guy's cheap seat.
In that battle AA are actually quite well placed as their seat will be both cheap and new unlike most of the other guys and they will be able to hit a few key differentiators on IFE, power etc. and gloss over the 3-4-3 issue that most infrequent travelers will not really focus on anyway.
So the fare has to stay cheap and then you try to show that your cheap seat is better than the other guy's cheap seat.
In that battle AA are actually quite well placed as their seat will be both cheap and new unlike most of the other guys and they will be able to hit a few key differentiators on IFE, power etc. and gloss over the 3-4-3 issue that most infrequent travelers will not really focus on anyway.
But F on the hand, looks very spacious and wide.
TAM plans to deploy this new aircraft on the FRA and MIA routes, the latter competing directly with AA.
Feb 1, 2013, 10:49 pm
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http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...o-says-381787/
Feb 2, 2013, 12:04 am
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I will not be flying coach in a 777 with 10 across unless I know I will have an entire row. These days that is quite rare.
Feb 2, 2013, 5:52 am
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To cite an example, TAM's new 777 will also be configured this way in the back.
Existing TAM 77W cabin shot: http://flic.kr/p/7kvqFU
Feb 2, 2013, 6:12 am
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Planning on flying LHR-DFW in August on this new aircraft in J. Hmmm...what do you think - should I book 3D&3H?
Feb 2, 2013, 6:41 am
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Sadly, I think you're exactly right about this for the majority of the flying public and AA has probably chosen the correct configuration for maximizing profit in the Economy cabin. However, after flying an Emirates 777 with 10 across seating once (the 3 hours 45 minutes seemed like an eternity) I can say that I would not take a transatlantic flight on a 3-4-3 777 if they were literally giving the seats away for free.
). I'm not a large person by any means but it wasn't comfortable and felt claustrophobic. Maneuvering the aisles was pretty tough if you had to pass anyone or walk around outstretched feet, etc.Unfortunately we'll be seeing more of this config as time goes on. At least for now UA and DL 777s are still 9 across, hopefully we'll get a few more years before they "enhance" their seating to 10 across.
Are SeatGuru's pitch measurements correct for AA's -200 and -300 models (32" and 31" respectively)? If so and the new bird loses and inch of pitch on top of the sideways squeeze, that just adds insult to injury for coach.
Feb 2, 2013, 7:48 am
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FLIGHT GLOBAL reports AA now will receive 20...confirmed by Horton.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...o-says-381787/
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...o-says-381787/
"It was not clear whether the additional five aircraft are options or firm orders. Boeing's online orders and deliveries page still lists firm orders by American Airlines for 13 777-300ERs. The database does not include a listing for options or commitments."
Feb 2, 2013, 7:59 am
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It isn't quite so easy to do a direct comparison as the new seat pivot differently in the recline so you should still have more knee room even if there is a loss of 1 inch.
Feb 2, 2013, 8:33 am
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I'm booked in 3L myself DFW-LHR. If I was not travelling by myself, I would go with 3D/3H. That mini cabin looks great - and just from the looks of it - 3L might be the greatest US airline business class seat available (for individual travelers) IMO.
Feb 2, 2013, 9:41 am
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Or you could get MCE which is 3/3/3 if you have status (it's still free for GLD until sometime late this year IIRC), or just pay the extra cost for one of those seats?
Feb 2, 2013, 10:03 am
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My experience on NZ 777 AKL-LAX with 10-across was equally poor. Never again unless I have no other choice (OK, if it were being given away maybe). I'm not a large person by any means but it wasn't comfortable and felt claustrophobic. Maneuvering the aisles was pretty tough if you had to pass anyone or walk around outstretched feet, etc.
). I'm not a large person by any means but it wasn't comfortable and felt claustrophobic. Maneuvering the aisles was pretty tough if you had to pass anyone or walk around outstretched feet, etc.Last edited by dogcanyon; Feb 2, 2013 at 10:11 am
Feb 2, 2013, 10:37 am
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Feb 2, 2013, 11:30 am
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Just curious but why would you rate it higher than 3A for example?
