Is American the Flag Carrier of the USA? Should it be?
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You mean the old PA terminal? A magnificent piece of architecture, very forward thinking at the time, combining functionality and grace. I hope that the Port Authority thinks harder about preserving it than it apparently did with AA's magnificent stained glass facade, once the largest stained glass window in the world, IIRC. The TW terminal needs to be reopened, too. It's being wasted by B6. Airports often have some great examples of architecture.
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You mean the old PA terminal? A magnificent piece of architecture, very forward thinking at the time, combining functionality and grace. I hope that the Port Authority thinks harder about preserving it than it apparently did with AA's magnificent stained glass facade, once the largest stained glass window in the world, IIRC. The TW terminal needs to be reopened, too. It's being wasted by B6. Airports often have some great examples of architecture.
The TW terminal and its current restoration is not at all a JetBlue thing; the PANYNJ is responsible for that effort and they are moving forward on the project. Last I heard plans to build a luxury hotel on the site are still moving forward.
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The tail is a piano keyboard
It's a piano keyboard! The tail looks to me like a piano keyboard, not our flag. Yikes!
For the next few decades, as I look at the planes, I will be reminded of the movie "Big"--Tom Hanks, Robert Loggia....playing Chopsticks at FAO Schwarz.....
Terrible choice of tail artwork. The logo is too clever for its own good. Is that half of the letter A or the beginning of a sardine can? What went on in those decision-making meetings? I wonder what all the runners-up ideas looked like.
I hope the new uniforms aren't awful. The clip about the two designers seemed lame.
As a loyal American customer, I want/hope for the very best for this airline. The choice-makers didn't find it, at least for the logo or the tail. Jeez.
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I find this rhetoric offensive. American is not a flag carrier for the U.S. In fact people from Mexico, Argentina etc. are just as American as U.S. citizen. I lived in Mexico for years and it was offensive to hear U.S. citizens refer to themselves as Americans as if they are the only people who can claim this identity. Maybe they need to change their name to North American Airlines if they want to be more representative of where they are based.
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I find this rhetoric offensive. American is not a flag carrier for the U.S. In fact people from Mexico, Argentina etc. are just as American as U.S. citizen. I lived in Mexico for years and it was offensive to hear U.S. citizens refer to themselves as Americans as if they are the only people who can claim this identity. Maybe they need to change their name to North American Airlines if they want to be more representative of where they are based.
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I find this rhetoric offensive. American is not a flag carrier for the U.S. In fact people from Mexico, Argentina etc. are just as American as U.S. citizen. I lived in Mexico for years and it was offensive to hear U.S. citizens refer to themselves as Americans as if they are the only people who can claim this identity. Maybe they need to change their name to North American Airlines if they want to be more representative of where they are based.
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In most cases those airlines all started out as state-owned national "flag" carriers and were privatized or remain in part owned by their governments. While US airlines survived on government contracts from the post office, the diplomatic corps and the military, they were never owned by Washington. So very different.
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Geographically, Greenland and part of Iceland (Thingvellir National Park is the place where you can see the North American Plate and the Eurasian tectonic plate is drifting part) is also North America.
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The US airlines have conversely been terrible at trying to portray the national brand - United's is yawningly non-descript; Delta's was clearly the result of a bored child playing around with a trigonometry set, and neither has anything remotely US-related about it.
As I posted earlier in this thread, AA for most of its life restricted flying within the USA, the Caribbean, Mexico and Canada with no other international routes and thus derived its name from that primacy of route network. Today AA has the most limited international network of the three major carriers (other than US) so it is rather ironic it, or many of those here, think it the most appropriate carrier to be considered the US's "flag carrier". Other than its name, there's little else to commend it for that assignment.
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Maybe they need to change their name to North American Airlines